Good point Brazza, plus as we know from Renault and Ferrari its always a good thing to have a slightly underperfoming second driver to protect the no.1 driver.
Fizzi to Torro Rosso ... why would that happen?
One win out of how many attempts? Red Bull you need to get a grip. I suspect this is just a way of getting free PR. If I were you I would offer him a payments for results contract. £10m per win would hook him and it would cost you nothing for another few years.
Go away you were a waste of a seat.
Must be quiet at Planet F1 HQ?
Max I am sure you had 100's of letters of support! If you had opened them you would realise they were very different letters! Re Jean Todd - no way should this be allowed. His history with Ferrari means he cannot be considered impartial. You will not hear the end of it from fans. Ari is the man, or another with no historic connections.
He's been off for a long time.
You were lucky Mark.
Who is Brawns test driver? ... presume they have one? He should be given the opportunity. Rubens has clearly lost the plot.
An incredible outburst. Rubens, they did not do it delibrately ... they have lost just as much as you have. You need to show some respect. They pay your wages and gave you another chance this year.
Good luck, make sure you beat the ice cream man.
This has to be the man for the job?
Ok, bye bye! Australia is too far away for most fans anyway.
Showboating for the home Mercedes crowd perhaps? I hope not - would love to see Lewis back up the field. Always good to see a Brit at the top :-) (awaiting the Aussie and American responses) Will also help Button out.
The new teams will be busy poaching talent where possible. Can't see Red Bull being a (really) long term opportunity for anyone anyway. They are a drinks company. They will get bored eventually.
FOTA - Just do it. You know you want to be in control of your own destiny? It's going to be great. More racing, more money, more fun. And best of all no medling from outside parties.
Come on FOTA, get on with it. Stop the threats just give us our series. It's getting boring. You know what you need to do. This conflict will never end with the FIA.
Don't care what happens in Torro Rosso really.
Bet it's dry.
Boring.
I am losing will to live. SOMEONE GET A GRIP!
The 'sport' is getting pretty boring now anyway. To be honest when did we last see a proper fight for position on the circuit like the old days? Most races are a procession back to Kimi's Ice Creams and the after race parties. FOTA should get some balls and set their own series up and make it exciting!
by Brawn and Red Bull ...
Source is probably the Virgin publicity machine. Not sure I would want them as a sponsor ... does not look like they are sticking by Brawn next year does it? Stability of sponsorship is important.
Maggie was an awesome PM though. Saying things about Hitler like this is crazy though. Few will accept this as acceptable. It is plain bizarre. He needs help!
They are concerned Kimi might get upset and empty their ice cream machines. Hence they deny it at the moment.No doubt it will happen at some stage.
Will prop up Force India and Torro Rosso?
I fear for Rubens. Maybe it's me but I think this is the type of thing a team would come out with before giving a driver the bad news they are not needed anymore? I hope I am wrong. I like Rubens.
What's wrong with Ron coming back? Ron is F1 - Its a worse place without him. Wonder if Luca picked that word 'dictator' carefully or if it just fell from his mouth? I know what I think :-)
Vettel is the better driver though, so Red Bull better not forget that. Although 3.5 points is not a lot between them.
One other benefit to Ferrari will be the savings in their ice cream bill.
Yes you do. Put a Merc engine in there and get some better aero.
You would have thought this would have been sorted long ago? Bunch of cowboys. Looks like they have been winging it???
Max, be gone. You are not wanted here. You are a fool who disgraced his position and is out of touch with fans.
Ferrari didnt save F1 they sold out. The FOTA series would have been much more interesting. Remember we ARE STILL HEADING FOR A BUDGET CAP! I think it is the right thing for them to do. McLaren should do the same. With no testing, the races provide perfect opportunity to sort things out on the car for 2010?
Bring back Ron, he is F1. Might help get the team back on track as well.
I'll do it Max. I'd make a great FIA president. I'll be cheap as well.
we should get the truth. Someone must know what's true? To me this just demostrates how much better we would have been if they had split from the FIA, however I am not saying I don't believe Max. Its seemed odd that his hard line disappeared to easily.
boulby_flyer01 ... I know what it is. They are as good at building F1 cars as they are at looking after their customers who have problems with their road cars. Need I say anymore?
Your a winner though Bernie??
I think the reasoning that they 'had their reasons' sets an unfortunate precedent. It's not in the spirit of this type of organisation. I would think long and hard about letting them back in.
Ron, Ron, Ron!!
FOTA Bottled it. What a missed oportunity. Mind you with Ferrari leading things as they did failure was inevitable. Shame Ron wasn't in charge. Max going is a good thing ... as long as he is not replaced with another plonker.
Of course your not.
Toyota ... Actions speak lounder than words. Show us on the race track not tell us in press releases.
Max please stay. If you go there is a danger someone better will come along and we wont get our FOTA series that we all want.
mmmmmmmmmmmmm ... this is going to be good. Don't let us down FOTA!! PS - Planet-F1 .... Are you going to change the name of your website?
Well put CooperS .... Its going to be exciting! They should come up with what the series is going to be called. Maybe we should start some suggestions off on P-F1?
Maybe Virgin will become major sponsor of new series?
FOTA are serious, Max needs to wake up and realise these teams want to be more in control of their own destiny. FIA need to take action RIGHT NOW if they are to save the series.
It was a boring race really. Lewis made an effort. Shame it wasn't where I was in the circuit!
Max, If I were you I would start looking for a suitable box to take home all the bits off your desk in. Personally I would like you to stay on. The damage you are causing is pushing towards the FOTA split which I want anyway.
I thought it was the guy from Bristol. I thought that was common knowledge?
When Jake asked if Max should go, he avoided answering the question properly. Interesting! Could be cracks in the Bernie and Max partnership??
He's just being a realist. Fingers crossed.
Mark wouldnt have done it anyway. Next time don't leave it so late to put a flyer in and you won't be able to make excuses.
Real mature Max.
Bernie will feel the pain if this happens.
Let's hope Brawn can pull it off. Webber struggles to keep it together, so could be ok. Vettels the risk. Fingers crossed Ross!
And buried.
That really is some arrogance. Wake up Max! THEY ARE OFF! Leaving you and Bernie very little. What do you think the Sponsors like LG are going to think? They bought into the top championship? F1 will be second rate. Are the TV companies still going to pay top dollar? The only way back from this is for the FIA to get rid of Max and start grovelling.
FOTA will be happy to see you stay on. You are making such a mess of it there is a danger someone lese might do a better job.
Max, Max, Max .... you are finished. The ship is sinking and you are responsible. (Actually I think its sunk now)
Of course they are Jenson ;-) Good move.
Its not your decision is it though??? So your words mean nothing.
These teams are not stupid FIA - they will have had their lawyers present when things were going on. Even if you sue and win .... what are you going to get out of it? Some cash, maybe even a lot of cash, but you will have lost the best motorsport event and that will last for decades!
I bet Ferrari are thinking oh no! We were not allowing Ice Creams in the new FOTA series.
Vijay ... you know what makes sense. F1 no longer has anything to offer and the best teams leaving it behind. Force India will leave with the rest of them.
No list from FIA means they have backed down. FIA is desparate. I hope they do sue ..... I hope it cots them a fortune and I hope they lose! Max is a liability and now the FIA are going to pay for it. They have lost the pinicle of motorsport. Suck it up Max and Bernie. Diddums.
Thats it Brawn ... lull them into a false sense of security!
Back to the future? Oh well. Roll on Sunday.
bex21 ... agree with you, but surely they will make it happen? They couldn't get away with a year out. My guess is they will go with the same specs for next year as a interim measure. Then all they need to do is book the circuits.
Good luck Red Bull. You are doing a great job this year.
There has got to be a US circuit as well? Can we have two in the UK please I am greedy.
Can Ron Dennis come bac as well please FOTA?
The F1 list is going to have Williams, Force India and a bunch of no ones in it?? That will be popular. Well done Max and Bernie.
With PaulRS - Sounds good, now deliver FOTA! I am with you. Looks like I will be going back to Silverstone next year! Has Lola joined you as well?
Beautiful as long as the FOTA series lives up to its potential. Maybe Lola is joining the FOTA series? If nothing changes the F1 teams are in the poop. Who wants to sponsor that? The FOTA series will be getting most of the sponsorship attention as it will become the pinacle of motorsport. We will be getting better cars, better cicuits, better rules. No Max and Bernie. It's sounding good? Shame its got to this as would have prefered F1 to sort itself out, but should be exciting times ahead! To Max - HA HA HA HA HA!!! You blew it!!! Bye Bye!!
Also the parking is not sounding great at Donnington. Sponsors won't stand for that and a lot of them are UK based - with the politics as well at the moment there is a very real risk of money going elsewhere. However am looking forward to Silverstone this weekend. I wonder if it really will be the last Grand Prix there. I am not so sure. (But taking lots of pictures just in case!)
Great from Fernando. I am impressed. Everyone needs to come together to beat this evil empire of Bernie and the Mad Max roadshow.
FOTA, Don't give him thing. Keep going. Cracks are appearing in the FIA approach.
"In light of the success of the FIA's Championship, FOTA - made up of participants who come and go as it suits them - has set itself two clear objectives: to take over the regulation of Formula One from the FIA, and to expropriate the commercial rights for itself. - Success because of the teams, who themselves have invested FAR FAR more than the FIA in the sport. And as for 'come and go as they please' - that really is desparate. McLaren and Ferrari have been around for decades. I hope F1 falls apart as long as us the fans are left with a great motorsport spectacle in whatever form the F1 teams decide. It copuld be interesting and a great thing to get rid of FIA meddling.
With Massa.... I think something better could come from this.
I know who i believe.
Keep fighting FOTA, You do have the upper hand. If the great teams back out TV viewing will drop away and circuits won't sell half the tickets they do. Also your sponsors want to be at the pinicle of motorsport which it wont be with this budget cap. The fans are with you FOTA!
After a whole 7 weeks of development I think they deserve to go head to head with the likes of McLaren and Ferrari on a level playing field. After all what does it matter that McLaren along with many other current F1 teams have spent decades and 100's of millions developing their cars, people and infrastructure?? Lets throw that away and give everyone the same chance to win. I have a better idea .... lets also handicap the drivers to make it fairer??? Once you have one the world championship you should have to drive the following year with your hands tied behind you back?
bikerbaz, agree Ross is serious impressive. What integrity.
FOTA,FOTA,FOTA,FOTA!!! Keep pushing, don't let them win.
I like Cosworth, good on them!
Hmmmmmm, interesting developments. Can we really not see Brawn or McLaren there next year? Also - what happens if Ferrari stick to their guns? Looks like Ferrari, Brawn and McLaren need to cave in or they all start another series? Looks like Max is has got a bigger pair than we thought?
With domformula1 on this. However if these guys are not Lotus (i.e the car manufacturer), why use the Lotus name?? No one really cares what you are called, its winning that counts.
Patience everyone.... we are only two races away from having an ice cream machine in my car. Therefore ensuring I stay in the car until the end of the race.
Let there be a break away series, that gives us more races to watch. Maybe on some interesting circuits?
You should give up and focus on next years car? Worked for another team!
Red Bull are doing a good job. They are worthy of second place for sure.
Well done Jenson. Now do the Brit Grand Prix! Vettel did well, shame about the team orders. Hope that doesn't affect them later on! Webber better than Vettel? Don't think so, but time will tell. Both the Red Bull drivers looked tired at the end?
Lock and load. Max is winning at the moment FOTA, let's see some action!
Don't worry too much Jense, a few 2nds or thirds will be fine until Ross sorts it.
It just gets messier!
Fairplay, Brawn are better not just because of the LEGAL diffuser but because they didn't devlop the 08 car last year under Honda but worked on this car. This is common knowledge. This is the car that has had Brawn's complete influence and genius involved in its design. Just like Michael Shumacher did well with Brawn and why Ferrari are in the poop without him now.
Nope.
Nico... If you strip anway some of the non essential bodywork it will go even quicker.
Qually two if they are lucky!
Someoneis going to have egg on thier face. FOTA and Max have backed themselves into a corner. Going to be interesting!
You couldn't make this stuff up.
More the merrier. Will make Kimi and Massa look better anyway!?
Beautiful Rochester!
Keep going Force India. Good to see some progress.
Not a chance. Labour has more chance of winning the next election than Massa win Turkey. I want Button to do it, but he can't keep banging them in can he? Maybe it's Ruben's turn Sunday?
Piquet's days are numbered.
Andyw .... I read and understand it fully. Think about it a bit more and I am sure you'll get it.
I would prefer two in the UK.
Ferrari have backed down! Nothing less.
I thought Campos said they were not going to enter? I have ever heard of them anyway, just wondered why they would lie?
what was all that noise about Toyota about then this morning? Journo's making it up again???
I am excited to see Aston involved as I love the brand and they have a long history, but I am struggling to understand how a prodrive built body with a (probably) mercedes re badged engine = Aston Martin F1 car? Surely the only Aston thing would be the badge? Unless the car is designed by Aston Martin I guess?
I'll believe it when i see it!
Toyota were always on their way.
mmmmmmmm ... tasty thought both battling next year. Still too early to call it his at the moment though surely?
Impressive stuff. They have ther heads screwed on.
I am sure we will see another Ferrari victory one day. A couple of failures for Brawn, a crash taking out Vettel and Ferrari have every chance!
thefasteddie ... Force India has the whole of Vijay's business empire behind it. You are right about Brawn though! Williams are in tough place, but could have waited until Friday and made Max sweat? Maybe dpearce is right? Williams would be shown in a good light against others who want to join. Many of those wanting to come in are simililar types of pure racing companies?
mandrake .... Rosberg's not a Brit???
This was the first street track Brawn had raced, so mistified over ""The Brawn have always been good at this type of track" ??
I am with untac ... its purely the track. I guarantee Ferrari won't be doing so well in Turkey. Not unless the safety car god or their mates in the FIA/Stewards have an influence.
Williams are an F1 team, not a manufacturer with a side hobby. They have to race next year. Above reasons make sense to me.
Ross is an F1 God. Look what he did at Ferrari, and look how much they are missing him. Ross you deserve every bit of success you and the team get.
I saw very few other cars cutting that corner. Problem is Massa's not a great driver and struggled to get it round the corner. He probably wasn't doing it deliberately.
You wouldn't want to drive for Ferrari? They can't make up their mind if they want in or out.
These things happen.
She is lovely!
So do i. (As long as Brawn win in the end) I like Vettel. He is a great driver.
Tatin .. it's wasted money. Bet Kimi crashes. He will want an ice cream fix half way through the race.
Should have left time for another?
hmmmm .. why not? might be interesting to see him race again.
Philtypr ... good point well made. This is almost surreal now. What next?
Go, and go quickly. Your threats and toy throwing is damaging the sport. Byeeeeeee!
There would be plenty of F1 without Ferrari. Go I say. Take Kimi and his Ice Creams with them. Sport will be a better place with out them and their 'Godfather of the sport attitude'. They think everyone should bow to their every wim. While I don't agree with the low cap I am glad Max is standing up to them.
Ferrari are just scared they are going to be embarrassed further. Leave Ferrari, I don't care :-)
Word is they are putting an ice cream seller on the finish line to motivate Kimi a bit more. I still think he won't get out of Q1 ... Not unless they throw in a free Coke.
Don't care who is left really. Will find a team to support whatever happens.
If anyone can sort it Ross can. Might be better without it though?
just in front of Force India.
Well said thunderslug.
Won't win with that attitude that is for sure.
I thought Ferrari wern't going to race next year if the FIA didn't back down? Now they are taking them to court? Hot air Ferrari, I knew you wouldn't follow through with the threat. I actually agree that there should not be such a low cap, but its Ferrari's 'you'd be nothing without us attitude to F1' that irritates.
Porsche/Audi would be wicked.
Well said! Brilliant and to the point.
Maybe Massa and KR could race each other and the fans would turn up and watch? They could put some obstacles on the track as well and maybe the pit crew could do a dance while they re fuel. I think I might be on to something. One thing is for sure they would not face the embarrassment of being beat that they are at the moment. My moneys on Massa to get the most wins .... unless they change the rules and make the prize a nice ice cream instead of a shiny silver trophy??
'most successful???' ... I thought McLaren had one more Grand Prix pro rata?
Put a Mercedes engine in the BMW - that will help. Not done a lot for Force India though. Maybe the answer is Kubica and Heinfeld to Force India, and the Merc engine in the BMW?
Another point to add. A lot of the sponsors have UK based businesses, which meas their sponsorship will not be as effective as it currently is. Perhaps some companies won't bother?
It's further north than Silverstone??? Forget it, Silverstone is far away enough.
This is great news. Will sort the problem of FIA/Steward bias towards Ferrari? I am afraid they think that being in F1 for so long gives them a right and entitlement to win and for the FIA and those around them in the sport to do everything they say. This looks like blackmail to me and I hope the FIA stick to their guns. Does anyone seriously think they would stay out of F1 for a sustained period? Their brand needs it too much. Not a chance. (Not to mention they would presumably have to lay off all the staff etc)
If it really was a fuel rig fault Ferrari may I suggest you check your rigs work before the start of a grand prix? (and then check them again) More likely is you did not put enough fuel in. I can lend you a calculator if you want. I know petrol is expensive, maybe the credit crunch has hit them hard and they are saving on fuel and calculators? Ferrari making a fool of themselves is still just as much fun as watching Button win. I was worried after the refueling clown comedy last year we might of seen the end of the Ferrari comedy club, but to be honest while its more subtle, its certainly still entertaining. Thanks Ferrari keep it up. PS - Eddie Jordan was so right today, but please don't listen to him ;-)
This is a great season. I disagree that Brawn are walking away with it. Its been pretty close at times. Brawn are probably getting the lions share of luck, but you makes your own luck sometimes. Congrats to JB again.
Bye bye .. what have Toyota ever done for the sport anyway? They only roll up so their car showroom staff can wear F1 gear on a Sunday to impress punters looking at boring and uninspiring road cars.
Good riddance. Every time I see them on the track it reminds me how I was shafted by BMW by the engine failure in my BMW that they refused to pay out for.
Well, most unexpected. Nice one Alonso.
You have got to laugh. Ferrari continue to provide the entertainment on the track and off. Love it. (Not as much as the fuel hose being left on last season though) There is time though. I have a thought that might help ... Stefano - have you thought about putting an ice box in Kimi's car? Then he could keep his ice cream and coke in there during the Grand Prix.
Take note Flav. This is how to behave.
csr073 ... You are so right about Ross. I noticed in Malaysia he took a trolley out to the grid. He is not only a genius, but a grafter too who is not worried about getting his hands dirty. He deserves all the success they get. Lets hope they hang in there. Things are getting tougher.
Brawn = Gentleman Briatore = Not
atec_racer ... you echo my thoughts. Have been saying it for some time. Always remember that time he crashed in Monaco and went back to his yaught rather than back to the pits to support his team. Never mind, long may it continue. A long term McLaren fan I am disapointed with Lewis's behaviour recently, but it is always a good thing when Ferrari don't win.
For good reason taajanator. He won them well, and in style. He might not be on the front row, but he is not running on fumes like Alonso and Vettel. He has every chance of getting a good result. Not cocky, merely confident having proved himself in the last two races.
Dream on Alonso .... you are well light. Mind you copying Brawns idea has helped as well.
This is funny. Has he touched a raw nerve???
You have less than two hours during the grand prix.
I have no respect for this guy. Get your own house in order before commenting on others.
Lucky boy Martin. You were in charge in Malaysia, syou should have gone instead of Ron.
Put a Mercedes engine in it. That will help.
I hope things do improve for Ferrari, just enough though that they get within a point and lose again would be great. Ideally with another episode of comedy pit stop being responsible.
Others will improve too!
Good luck Ron, thanks for the years of entertainment and great sporting achievements. Must be glad to get away from the politics though?
Whitmarsh should go, and Lewis should be punished. He is a big boy and should have spoken up! Shame for Ron if this happens, he is bigger than Lewis.
Taffy .... give it time. Ferrari will be looked after at some time no doubt. Maybe they thought it a bit too obvious this time round.
Good idea Mario but we all know there will never be a level playing field while Ferrari and the FIA are involved in F1?
I think this does not sit well with sponsors. Specially when times are tough. Gives them an excuse to walk away?
Good idea, and a short flight from the UK. Go for it.
Go Jenson!
April 1st still? Get a grip. Not going to happen. Would Brawn even want someone like Hamilton given his recent behaviour? Rubens is doing a great job.
Def top eight? I think you need to set your sights a bit higher than that Nico.
Who's Ralph Schumacher?
An interesting insight into what went on in the stewards room. Sounds feasible and not overstated by Whiting. Shame on you Lewis. More I hear, more I am appalled. I think this is going to be hard to come back from.
Nothing story, he probably has a BBQ at home.
Whitmarsh was senior man in charge. He should go, not Ron.
Why does he not call MS and ask him. All this speculation is boring.
PR designed to take focus away from 'liargate'.
Robson ... you are wrong, Ferrari want drivers like Massa who can't drive in the wet and Kimi who at the first chance sticks it in the wall so he can go back to his boat (Monaco) or his motor home for a coke and Magnum ice cream mid race (Malaysia).
Agree with brade84 ... let's keep it all in Europe. We could probably host three in the UK. :-)
Sure ... I also happen to be in Sepang now and again on a F1 weekend. To be honest though even if Michael did make a suggestion the team agreed with him, so responsibility lands with team as a whole. If it had been the right call and the heavens opened as Kimi left the pit lane we would be commenting different. It was a gamble pure and simple. With the Ferrari being so slow you need to take them or the results end up the same. For sure we saw MS take some 'gambles' as a driver. Some got him in the poop more than others. Bit of luck he's not driving in todays paranoid F1 world, he would be up before the stewards more often than Lewis. Hang on though he drove for Ferrari ... so mayb enot.
While I agree McLaren are clearly in the frame here we must not forget that Lewis is an adult. He should have grown a pair in that meeting and spoke the truth. I understand the pressure he probably felt under, but he must have known this one would come back and bite him? Ulitimately Lewis could have made a difference in the stewards meeting and spoken up. HE IS TO BLAME FOR HIS OWN MISFORTUNE. I might add I am a McLaren fan (although not sure if I can continue to be so)
It was a big gamble. Maybe he should stick to Casinos.
Flav ... grow up and accept the fact you failed to exploit the rules to their fullest extent. It will be years before we see a Renault winning a WC.
It does. Close the door behind you on the way out Martin.
Great Job Timo. I had a few quid on you as well which makes it even sweeter!
Stefano, please don't stop doing what you are doing. It takes the pain away from McLaren's dismal performance. Here is a couple of tips if you want to get better: 1) Get rid of KR - He is not bothered. Get yourself anyone else. He couldn't get that Magnum and can of Coke out quick enough today. 2) Get a double diffuser on the car asap. You are in the poop without one. 3) Stop worrying about what other teams are up to and focus on getting your own house in order. Of course if you really want to make a difference beg Ross Brawn back ... but I don't see that happening. Good luck though .... I give you no chance this year.
Suck it up BMW the three teams outsmarted you and have a better car. You have average at best drivers and your F1 cars are as bad as your road cars. Win on the race track like a team with honour, not in a court room. SAD SAD PEOPLE!
You are right Vettel. Have put a couple of quid on you!
Good job Jenson! Bring it home for us tomorrow.
He'll be fine.
Whitmarsh is clearly not up to the job.
Well (and I say this as a McLaren fan) this is pretty poor show. Lewis you are a big boy now and need to take some responsibility for your actions. Blaming someone else does not cut it with me. It's obvios to me you tried to blag it in the stewards room. You must have felt it was firstly wrong, and secondly quite likely to come back and bite you? Too many of these type of things and you will soon find your fans desert you. I for one have to question my continued support. Its left a bad taste in my mouth.
Its Brawn you have to feel for. If they keep doing as well as they have then the FIA will turn to them once they have got rid of the McLaren threat. Anyone who threatens the beloved Ferrari is a target.
You knew it was coming didn't you? They can't stop themselves. Will someone tell me what the point is of watching a race if the results change in the days afterwards. IT IS A JOKE. But quite honestly I don't think the FIA give a damn about the fans. Their focus is on giving Ferrari every little helping hand they can. THE ARE SPOILING THIS SPORT AND IT NEEDS TO STOP! McLaren or any team should not have to give any evidence. There should be adequate systems and rules that do not allow for grey areas or post race appeals. I find it hard to beleive McLaren provided 'deliberate misleading information'. If they did why did the FIA not spell out what it was? Whatever it was I bet there is another side to the story and it won't be clear cut. a radio transmission might not have been heard, our might be misunderstood. McLaren know the radio is listened to? Maybe we should just give Ferrari the Championship now and let the other teams race it out properly without interference from Stewards or the FIA. You can just tell how this season is going to go?
Great Job Ross. Brilliant. They should build a statue of you in Brackley.
Lewis goes from strength to strength. What a true world champion.
Excuses already? If you are that concerned wear some night vision goggles!
FIA are in tricky position. How are they going to give Ferrari a hand now? We wait and seen.
Olawale ... couldn't agree more. Its great to see the frustration and suffering through the posts. Enjoy! Lewis will be a winner for a long long time. (Just as soon as he gets a double defuser)
Spot on TheEggman!
Not bad Lewis. Not bad at all.
HA HA HA HA HA Summerss..... that is cruel, but spot on :-)
Great Job Lewis. Well done.
Well done Jenson .... great drive, great car, great job by Ross Brawn, the team and Rubens as well. What a great spectacle and once again Lewis showed Ferrari how it's done. Ferrari couldn't even get their car into the garage when it retired. To the Honda board ...... HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! To Sir Richard, wishing you bought them now? Well you did a good job of milking the available PR. But remember you are merely a sponsor, so don't get too comfy.
Kubica could have avoided this happening and choose not to.
I blame Webber. He knew he was there, but closed the door anyway!
Looked to me like Kubica was more at fault? Glad for Lewis, he deserved it. Very hard on Vettel re the $50,000 fine. Wonder where that cash goes to?
Yes, Jenson and Lewis joint first with Ferrari last will do me. Jenson - I live near Frome ... any chance of a parade if you win the Championship?
Go Brawn, Go Jenson, Go Rubens. PS - Jenson .. I have lost lots of cash on you over the last few years, so if you could win lots this season it would be much appreciated.
Oh yes CooperS ... nail on head. He didn't want to take any risk. Now he has seen its a better team than Ferrari and others he wants his name all over it. Ross ... put the price up!
Well done Williams. Showing Ferrari how it should be done! Just to add Ferrari ... how stupid are you going to look when Brawn kick you all over Albert Park tomorrow?? I am praying for it. Stop thinking you have some kind of god given right to win everything in this sport. It's boring.
Christian ... it's boring and you are making excuses already. Get on and race and take your hat off to them. They built a better car. Don't hear McLaren moaning.
Give your mates at the FIA a call. If they can't help there is always the stewards. Lets be honest the appeal against the 'diffuser three' will probably be upheld to help you.
I didn't recognise my last two BMWs after they had serious engine failures. Lets hope their F1 cars don't suffer their road cars reliability issues.
Looks like the FIA have pulled it off. Changed the regs to penailise McLaren (and others). If the rules had not changed we would not be looking at this situation?
If the rules can be interreted in different ways then they are clearly not clear enough. And so tough. SUCK IT UP FERRARI!!! (McLaren - get one of these bad boys on the car asap)
Rickp ... I am a McLaren fan, but what was intersting is they actually did not get the last garage most of the time. Which made some of the other teams question what was going on.
Go Brawn GP! Don't over do it though. 2nd behind McLaren would be perfect.
Dream on davratta ... there will be a hell of a lot more cars than that behind McLaren.
Nice and friendly?
Lewis is right. Does anyone actually agree with the FIA?
Makes sense to me. Pehaps if I endulged in S+M themed orgies I would have a different outlook on this?
Mines not.
Very much inside the rules is the same as completely within the rules surely?
Agree with everything Michael has said. Just hope he is wrong about McLaren. Stupid system.
I think its revenge?
Wont it be great if the tables are turned and Lewis wins it on wins, but would not have with points. Still not happy. This is a joke.
How do we get this overturned? Do the fans views count for nothing? Disgusted.
He would make more of a difference at BrawnGP I would have thought? Would be a new challenge for him.
You have got to be joking AmalanK ... BMW make superior motor vehicles? Have you actually owned any? One of the biggest kept secrets in the car industry .. they are junk. Had two with major engine failures at three years old. BMW not interesting helping as both were just out of warranty. Mercs are far better cars!! I was a BMW fan, but not taking a chance on a third. Audi best value cars out there now! Anyway ... enough of BMW road cars .. back to F1. Mercedes won't walk away they are a company with a long history of motorsport. They have tasted victory and they will want more. They seem the kind of company with integrity and besides who is more likely to build a better car more often than not ..... a dedicated pure F1 team like McLaren or a two bit car manufacturer who can't even get a road car engine to run for more than 60,000 miles?
Dream on Toyota, I'd put every bean of cash I have on you not winning this year. 4th if you are lucky, probably 6th.
Loads of cars are going to be in front of you Massa this year. I think its going to be a rainy season ;-)
I really hope its true about BrawnGP, I suspect though it has been engineered to mae the car look competitive and attract sponsors. How great would it be if they have pulled it off though. I would love to be a fly on the wall of the Honda board room if BrawnGP started winning races. I would laugh for a long time. It would be so sweet. Go BrawnGP!
The FIArrari's cunning plan is coming together. By changing the specs so dramatically McLaren and others stood a very good chance of having a poor car this year, thereby allowing Ferrari to have an edge (no doubt possible by having input and advance notice of the specs) Still, never mind.Lewis likes a challenge? And will make for an interesting season.
Might be worth a couple of quid each way? Certainly need a win with the amount of cash have lost on Button in last few years!
McLaren will be there. Might not be at the start as with the new rules anything can happen. They will adapt and overcome though. Lets just hope the FIArrari are fair this year.
Well if thats reflected in the odds I should clean up nicely this year. My cash will be firmly on McLaren. A bit of testing reveals nothing. Personally I would like to see Brawn and Williams up the top with McLaren.
Ferrari were probably given the 09 specs a few years ago by the FIA which wont have helped the other teams.
I hope for a lottery win and that I never have to work again. Sadly Heikki has better odds than me. Not by much though!
They need Rubens this year.
They should not be allowed back into the sport. Shocking disregard for their employees, the sport and their fans. Poor like their road cars.
Testing proves nothing except they can drive along. Going to be interesting! Specially seeing if your new team mate can beat you Webber?
I will miss Sato. He was entertaining at times.
Dilip ... he who laughs last laughs longest my friend. If either Ferrari beat Lewis this year (without the ususal support from FIA and stewards) I will be very surprised indeed. This is Lewis's 2 0f 8 season.
Great News!!!!!!
Hope your there Rubens. Honda need experience more than ever at the moment.
Will also make an interesting benchmark for Force India, or perhaps the other way round?
I think Brawns team have enough on their plate this season without a Rookie. Good decision for the team.
Don't clear a space in the trophy cabinet, at least two drivers will be ahead of you.
'whomever buys the Honda Racing team' - Planet-F1 .... You said the management team had bought them out??? Whats going on?
Car looks great!
daveyboy33i - what an interesting thought. That would be interesting indeed to see Jenson at McLaren. It is too much to ask though?? McLaren ... if you are reading this can you please replace HK with JB? An all Brit team would be great and would also answer the long unanswered question of whether Jenson really is that good. Pretty please??
Ferrari ... take note. You need it more than Renault!
Branson all mouth and no cash again? Riding on the back of the teams misfortune to get free publicity. I say great news - shame Bernies involved, but will be interesting to see what happens. With all the chaos it is hard to imagine Team FryRoss will hit the ground running?
Rosberg - be grateful for what you have. You have not shown much brilliance that I have seen unlike some other drivers(ie Vettel)in lesser cars. As THussey said 'Start winning or your gone'. Williams are a good team, with great heritage. Show some respect.
Looks like Philips have upped their support anyway? Lots more of their logos on the car.
Holding breath ..... be quick!
Agree with DC. Be afraid Ferrari. You won't be getting the constructors cup either this year. Only thing that is disappointing is we will need to wait until 2015 to beat Michael's record.
This is stupid. If the teams already have the facilities they should be able to use them. To make it fair perhaps those teams without should be given access to other teams facilities? If Honda had a wind tunnel perhaps it can be bought cheap at the mo?
Like any driver is not going to pay it before the start of the race. Maybe they are all scared of Lewis already and using the licence fee excuse to not race him again? I bet Lewis has paid his. Hope Jenson hasn't - they might not give refunds.
Clean fuels??? Is he serious? Do Virgin Atlantic planes run solar power? Sir Richard ... don't worry about it. The environment is not going to suffer too much with a few cars running round a track a few times a month. I hope you get it, the Virgin Brand would no doubt benefit from the exposure.
Sort it out guys! Its dangerous for the drivers and I bet the circuits don't pay for the damage? No idea some people!
If BMW F1 cars are built like their road cars I am not surprised the mechanic got a shock from it. I certainly got a shock at the poor reliability of BMWs I have owned! (Never again though - lesson learned)
Its on the race track that counts, so wouldn't get too excited all you Ferrari fans.
If negotiations fail its academic anyway?
PR to placate their nervous backers and sponsors.
What business is it of Ferrari where the races are held? Surely it is up to FIA and Bernie??? .... Oh dear - just realised, both are controlled by Ferrari. Silly me.
No chance - Renault won't be third even. McLaren Red Bull BMW Ferrari Ross Brawn Racing Renault The others ....
Glock ... get yourself another manager ... you should have it paid for in your contract with Toyota if you had any sense. Also - you could always do an advert for Morrisons of something and get that type of cash??
I hope they make it. Would like to see a McLaren engine in there too. Could be interesting?
Jense, have always supported you and hope the best for you. However if Honda does not get a buyer and with your fitness being so good you could always join Ferrari and be their man in the pits for the next time they need to chase their fuel hose down the pit lane.
If true thats a big chuck of debt. Can't imagine investors queing up with that risk (assuming true and not made up by the media) But no smoke without fire??
You'll get more points than webber, don't you worry.
As I have said before surely these drivers would have negotiated the licence be paid as part of their contract?? If they didn't more fool them!
Alonso ... he's more than a tough rival. He is going to wipe the floor with you. If you get half the points he does I will be blown away.
Owsiak ... I think you are right us Brits probably will bet on Lewis. We know a good thing when we see it. Although I will be almost as happy if any team except Ferrari win it.
The drivers should all shut up and pay it. What I don't understand is why its not part of their contract that the team pays it anyway???
wraith ... spot on.
Is it just me, or do the last few paragraphs make no sense? Whats he trying to say??
"But it will be the strongest teams like Ferrari, McLaren and BMW who will fight for the title." - excuses before you even get on the grid Alonso??
How could Panasonic justify continuing to pay Toyota money while making people redundant? Surely its a no brainer to pull the plug on the sponsorship. Then leave it to the lawyers to argue over :-) Toyota don't bring much to the table anyway ...
So do I.
They should buy Honda??
I believe them. Probably rumours started by jealous competition.
Anyone who has passed a driving test could win it with the right car! Problem is Nick, Robert is a better driver and more consistent than you. Then you have some pretty stiff competition out there. McLaren and Ferrari will have half decent cars we can be sure of that and with the new regs who knows what might happen. Williams may pull their finger out as well? Only hope BMW have is they have hit the sweet spot on a new car and licked the new specs into shape a the start of the season. If not I would not clear a space on the trophy shelf just yet.
I don't think BMW have to worry about winning the F1 championship. There will be at least two teams ahead of them. Kubica good driver though. Should be with a better team.
I am confused. They all have a min weight and I thought most cars run ballast to hit this figure at the moment. Does KERS really weight that much?
I have another rule that should be changed for this year. Steward support in favour of Ferrari to be scrapped. What do we think?
If he is the quickest he would have beaten Lewis when he was his team mate. Things must be rocky in the Renault camp? Alonso - There is a drive at Honda if you are interested?
What??? Doesn't surprise me at all to be honest. Fernando had a couple of lucky results at the end of the season. More down to a safety car and top runners preserving points than Alonso's driving. Maybe he wants to be on Alonso's Christmas card list or something?
I hope McLaren covered all their computer screens up when he was in the building.:-)
If thats what his contract says then he should get his money. Not sure why he would have been treated like that though? Must be something more to it???
Poor Alonso :-)
I for one would be annoyed if they got a bail out. Tax payers money should not be spent on them. Its probably media nonsense as always.
Why does anything Dave Richards say actually count for anything anyway? He 'showed an interest' to get a bit of publicity and failed to deliver. All talk.
We are being made to wait too long for the start of the season. Bring it on!
At least its honest? I would miss Ferrari too. McLaren would lose the only decent competition and its so much sweeter when the wins come over a Ferrari.
Houghy is right. Donnington would become an expensive banger racing venue??
It could in some cases force reckless moves. Hamilton has better watch out for Massa's Schumacher moves if this comes in!
sounds like more fun to me as long as no one gets hurt.
Agree with atec_racer ... no one is going to buy a Toyota because of one win. Anyway their cars are boring.
If it is potentially dangerous and expensive it should be pulled?
Good luck Robert!
Of course you will stay there Alonso. We have seen in the recent past how loyal you are to teams. This is a little game he is playing called 'If I make out I am happpy at Renault, Ferrari might get their contract pad out' Facts are there are quite a few decent drivers about at the moment. Any one of which could fill Kimis boots. Some are cheaper, more loyal and less tempermental than a certain someone!
If the circuits are charged less than fair enough. My guess is they won't though. Agree why don't the teams just break away???
Strange is re signing Kimi. Strange is employing clowns to release your cars from the pits into oncoming cars. Strange is Ferrari's relationships with the stewards and the FIA. Strange is treating staff so well they run off with your technical data. What is not strange is someone who has been in a sport for decades stepping back to enjoy life outside of F1 a bit more, to focus on other areas of the McLaren empire (during challenging financial times as we are all aware) having just acheived greatness in raising a child protege to win a world championship against all the (dodgy decisions)odds McLaren faced last year. I say congrats Ron - you deserve a bit of time off, although I suspect you won't be taking much! Thanks for fighting on and driving the team to a well deserved victory. Martin Whitmarsh always seems a switched on guy so looking forward to seeing him at the helm.
Having seen his recent performance other teams won't be lining up to sign him. Although - it would be interesting to see him race the same car as Hamilton for a season?
Silly idea ... if the win is not of the cards what incentive would there be for a driver to push? Better to 'retire' or just coast round and save the car for next race. Don't change what aint broke! If you do want something to look at though Bernie, by all means focus on stewards and the relationship between the FIA and a certain team.
mmmmmmmmmmmm ... looks good!
I heard McLaren are going to get round the testing restrictions by running their car round the M25.
Great news for Honda perhaps. Well done Mercedes.
I predict a McLaren clean sweep with Red Bull Second, BMW third.
Uh Oh .... if Ferrari don't start with KERS you can expect them to get even more favorable treatment from the stewards and FIA. It would be so wrong for other teams to have an advantage when the great Scuderia cant make some electronics to work.
Beautiful Howee! Maybe the new Mclaren should be called the MP4-33%?
Couldn't agree with you more alfie. Ferrari are obviously worried. Lets hope the F60 is a Dog. Will give Force India someone to play with at the back of the field.
Doesn't seem to be beating himself up too much about last years performance?
VJM02 ... please!
I am coming in two helicopters. Just in case.
With so many changes in the regs I would say its got to be impossible to call at the moment surely? This season will probably be more about the cars than ever before. Anything can happen. My money is on Hamilton for a second time.
Well said Murray!
What a surprise! Only thing is Dave ... when the time is right you won't be able to afford it then either. It would be fun if MS were to buy it, but I think wishful thinking. Maybe the government should bail them out like they did the bank. It could be Team HM Government. They could cover the car in those plastacine figures on TV at the moment and put the latest reduced hospital waiting times and crime stats on the rear wing.
Lets just hope it happens. This season could really be mixed up. Can't wait!
Great news ... Can't wait to see it in action again. It was great fun last year. One thing Ferarri - have you also programmed it not to release the car when there are other cars coming down the pit lane?
With DC gone we will have to see who will take his king of crashes crown? As long as no one is hurt and they are not deliberatre (watching you Massa!) I think it adds spectacle to the sport anyway. Plus with all the cost saving coming in the can affort a few more wings each season.
He won't step up. No chance.
Congratulations Lewis!
philtypr - what are you talking about???? Did you read it before you submitted it? I think good few people would turn up given his popularity. Ferrari would have no problem running these things, they no doubt have a 'special deal' with Bernie to pay for such events. And - Italy is not exactly the centre of the 'health and safety' universe so they would probably deem two coppers and a bit of police tape adequate anyway.
Why doesn't someone go public and let us know whos interested? Might flush out the wasters? Wonder how much some of the bigger sponsors pay each year? Might be cheaper to buy the team??
They both deserve each other. I hope it happens. Will give Lewis the chance to battle with Alonso properly and show him who's boss like he did when Alonso was at McLaren.
In my opinion Bernie made a mistake making these payments. Ferrari need F1 to give their cars credibility. If he stopped them Ferrari would not pull out.
Maybe we should all vote on it? I vote drivers get a reduction! :-)
Special deal??? Why am I not surprised. Ferrari think they are above not only the rules, but other teams as well. lets hope the credit crunch is biting hard into Ferrari's road car sales.
Lets hope it happens!
Energyman - If Massa wins the title next year I will send you a nice crisp tenner. Won't happen.
The DNFs were due to sub standard team, car and drivers surely?
I am not even sure why Luca feels the need to answer questions or comment about other drivers not in his team. Seems rude and unprofessional to me.
I am sure the top drivers will be fine with it. Whats the difference between earning £20M AND £15M per year?
Maybe he could take the cash from Honda and stay on with new owners on lower salary?
Robson ... you are right most of us Poms won't bother. Not if you are an example of who we would be welcomed by plus the flight time's too long. If it's the greatest country on earth how come there are so many of your countrymen over here? I won't comment further. Fortunately I know you are not a typical Aussie.
Sales must be dropping off for Ferrari at the moment? Can't see them giving up and doing a runner like Honda. Still never mind Honda fans .... there is one bit of good news. You can support a decent team now. McLaren won't treat their fans like that.
Just saw Jenson turn up at Brackley on Sky News in his Civic. He should have pulled up in a Toyota.
Porsche have the cash - what a great result that would be. Too much to hope for! It was my immediate thought when I heard about Honda.
Good luck Nick and Ross ... be so satisfying to do it without Honda? I think this relects badly on the Honda brand. Audi or Porsche would be too good to hope for???? I guess they would start on their own. Porsche and VW certainly have the cash?
Jenson, I live near Frome - pop in if your bored. Hopefully someone will snap you up.
So it was all lies about confirming drivers etc. They have been misleading us for some time it seems. I feel for the employees. Honda don't need to do this. They are a global company that could support F1 if needed. Perhaps if they had been sensible and had sponsors for the last two seasons it might not have cost them so much. Poor management by the Honda board.
Mmmm a twist. You have wet our appetite. I wonder if it is the revealing of a diamond encrusted No. 1 on the World Champs Car? Perhaps Lewis is going to win driving backwards in 2009?
Rochester .. love it, you should have a column on here. Beautifully put! This won't happen. Its even more stupid than having bias, part time amateur stewards.
With no DC there will be less broken ones on the track though, so might even out.
It puts me off wanting to watch the sport. I hope this does not go through. For once Alonso is right.
This is a case of Fisi emphasising he has a contract to all so he can get more out of Vijay when he calls him into his office any day soon. Ignoring the inevitable! I feel for him to be honest.
Silverfox ... agree with you. However Ferrari have made some odd decisions recently. ie keeping Kimi on when he appears not that bothered about winning. They might take the risk. I hope Ferrari do take him on. As a McLaren fan I thing there would be nothing better than to watch Alonso get beat in a Ferrari.
Let's hope Honda can make it happen. Be good to see two Brits on the podium.
What about sponsors and guests. Are they going to be made to use public transport? If they are it just makes the event less attractive to companies. Of course the helicopters will probably still be allowed? Own goal in my opinion. Things must be pretty well sorted if all they have to worry about is the car parking.
They must be bored in Tasmania. It was a charity event. Move on! I thought our old bill were sad. This inspector guy probably just wanted his name in the press.
I really hope Alonso ends up with Ferrari. It will make the Lewis Hamilton vicories so much sweeter. No loyalty from some sponsors though???
If the points system changes then so will the team strategy. One question though ... if Ferrari had won it would we be having this discussion? Me thinks not! Its a PR exercise to appease Ferrari.
terji - couldn't agree more. Absolute junk. Poundstretcher and Matalan will be sponsoring races next.
Also - LG - Not exactly the most exciting of Brands. All low end electronics and iphone copycat mobile phones. Their TV's have awful pictures and flogged cheap through Argos.
Where has he spoken about this? Is it a book? Might be interesting other stuff in there.
So if a driver came second in every race and another driver won two races (with no one else getting more than 1 win) and didn't finish any others they would win the world championship??? Surely not. So basically a driver finds himself far away from the front with no chance of catching up he may as well stick it in the garage??
Lewis Hamilton is F1. Would be far worse off without him.
3304HL - RBS will be under contract to sponsor Williams unless of course the contract has just run out. You make a good point though. On Canada, I think given their statement I can't see it going back to Montreal any time soon. Are there any other decent tracks in Canada? I wouldn't go to the Canadian Grand Prix as I didn't like Quebec. Would be keen to go to one elsewhere in Canada though.
Who cares? I am sure he'll be fine whatever happens.
A quick car will help as well. My guess is 3rd place is best he can hope for. Great job though in 2008. The BMW F1 car was as disapointing as their road cars, so not RK's fault.
I think the Shanghai Grand Prix should be pulled from them anyway. It should be on environmental and human rights grounds.
Mark will probably make a good number two driver to Vettel. Be interesting to see what a decent driver can do in the car.
Excuses already?? The seasons not even started. Jensons already blaming the car as well. Who is next?
The best driver and best team is always going to have a lot of fans. Get used to it guys, that number one won't be going anywhere for some time.
It would be fantastic. Great PR for him as well. Shame it probably won't happen.
Massa and Hamilton at McLaren, could it happen?
I will tell you who else will be stronger next year. Honda! Im a McLaren fan, but can't wait to see what Honda do now Ross has had some time to work on the team. Plus Jenson is a local to me, so go McLaren, Go Lewis, Go Honda and Go Jenson for 2009!
EJ - With respect as you know more about F1 than me. I think you are missing the point here. McLaren have been extremly supportive of Lewis throuigh his career. The loyalty shown both ways is a rare thing in sports these days. For Lewis to throw that support back into McLarens face would be wrong while they have no reason to do so. Its great to see a top brit driver with a top brit team. Who knows what the future holds though! I just hope Lewis repays McLarens loyaly first.
Robson ... you are funny. What are you talking about?? I am guessing you are very young and have a few Ferrari's in your toy box. PS - hope Santa brings you a Diecast McLaren for Christmas.
Who is Rossi???
You can thank the stewards, your lawyers, the FIA and HK for the constructors championship.
Great job Lewis, well deserved. Great race by Felipe as well. Roll on next year. Watch out for Honda ;-)
McLaren are always going to have accusations of this type levelled at them given the history. Bottom line is though they have to give Lewis the extra bit of attention at the moment. He is about to win a world championship (we hope!) Had Heikki put him in Lewis's position he would enjoy that bit more love himself right now. McLaren are a top pro team and will have learned from recent errors of judgement. A successful team must all row in the same direction. Would love to see a McLaren 1-2 tomorrow. Go for it Heikki!
Course you can Felipe ;-)
He'll stay at Renault. No other team would surely be silly enough to take such a risk? He can dream of driving for Ferrari. I think even they have more sense.
This guy talks sense!
rcparsons ... brilliant!!!
He who laughs last ynot808 :-)
Bye bye Ferrari. Won't miss you.
Brazil sounds scary. Why do they bother goinbg there if its so dangerous? We culd have two in the UK to make up for it.
DarkDefender ... no doubt the unit cost will go up to cover the costs of the added longevity.
I think its Honda. Ross Brawns brilliance will start shining through soon??
IrishAnders .. could it be they hung on to it until they needed it, but found the engines were all reliable enough? They would have only chnged it if needed. Lets just hope he gets through the weekend ok!
I am a Mclaren fan, but miss Schumie. Mind you with all the politics in the sport lately he probably doesn't miss it too much.
Formula One is primarily a sport, not just a test bed for future car technology. I see this as the second biggest threat to our beloved sport after the stewards/FIArrari.
Their F1 car is more reliable than the road cars they make.
Rubymurray is so right. To clinch it on Massas home turf is going to be sweet. Lets take nothing for granted, the dark forces of FIArrari are probably plotting Massa's win right now. We must hope for the best. Your fans are with you Lewis. Great job today.
Lets have two in the UK then?
One thing is for sure. We won't have seen the end of these suspect decisions. If it was not so serious it would be a comedy.
Pull your finger out Heikki ... you can do it! (just not in front of Lewis pretty please)
A third win ..... No chance. First win was a safety car fluke, the second because all the better drivers/cars were given penalties by sad and vindictive stewards who are trying to unfairly influence the championship. Fernando - bet you can't do better than 5th.
What an idiot. He should think before he speaks. I just hope justice is served this year. I don't think F1 will come out of 2008 well if points keep getting unfairly handed to Ferrari.
The stewards/FIA are running out of races in which to help Massa/Ferrari out. They will become more desparate with each of the last two Grand Prix. Wonder what they will do next. Just hang in there Lewis!
tpellf1 ... couldn't agree with you. It is racing. Just like Spa was and Hamilton gave the position back then.
Thomas988... what race were you watching. Hamilton was blatantly rammed by Massa who WAS OFF TRACK prior to hitting him. As for the Bourdais incident. Clearly the dark forces as still at work. They no doubt will be until the dying moments of the last race. Just wonder how desparate they will get in their quest to get Massa the championship???
If he is truly hungry he does a great job of covering that fact up. His body language says something different to me. Always has done. The time he went back to his boat rather than the team at Monaco told me all I needed to know about his dedication.
Would be interesting to see what Bruno and Rubens could do. Go for it Honda ... although Torro Rosso seem the better car the moment?
Maximum points won't happen. Massa will crack under the pressure and KR wont try too hard. My prediction is LH 1st, Kubica 2nd, Massa 3rd.
Bernie, you are sooooooooooooooo right.
Are the drivers really interested in another $1m? What about a lottery for the spectators - $1m prize. That would get the numbers up. Bizarre Idea I think.
Someone by the man a beer. He made my weekend. The drive off and sight of the Ferrari mechanics going down the pit lane to remove the fuel hose was hilarious. Evens things up again now after Spa. Roll on the next race!
Interesting that the GPDA should ask for this, but not support Hamilton when it happened. So happy for LH to be penailised unfairly, but they don't want it to happen to them.
Great Job and well done Sebastian. A great drive and clearly a talent we will be enjoying for some time to come. Wonder if the ink is dry on that contract Ferrari? Be quick! I know who I would rather have.
Race control called him in to weigh his car. Interesting!
Lewis - you did win last week and lets hope you wipe the floor with them this weekend. Your fans are with you.
Its still wrong. Why wait a week nearly to make this 'explanation' public? Why did he tell McLaren Lewis had done the right thing by dropping back then? Clearly if he had let McLaren know this at the time Lewis could have either dropped back further until another corner or done a drive through. This 'explanation' is spin designed to try and take the heat off the FIA. Well I for one am not accepting it.
Not holding breath, but we can hope justice will prevail!
Great News for McLaren fans!
I think the more I think about this, the more angry I get. I am not going to stop watching F1 like some have said, but I wish there was some form of protest I could make. I am also amazed at the lack of support from Lewis's fellow drivers. A precedent has been set now and next time it could be them. This sport really could end up a procession behind the lucky pole sitter. Perhaps they should have the safety car out for every race controlling it from the front just in case a driver should feel the need to overtake? Last weekend was a truly upsetting event ... one that will live on for a long, long time to come. The very essence of competition and fairness has been undermined. I don't think there is necessarily a sustained campaign against McLaren (Perhaps the perceived evidence is just cicumstantial?). I honestly think the stewards just didn't think about it and they made a bad call. But who knows? - we can't say what goes on in the stewards room can we? Perhaps a solution is to have the stewards videoed while they discuss their reasoning and dish out their punishments? It would add another dimension to F1 viewing. You could 'press the red button' and go live to the stewards room. Bernie - what do you think? You could probably get a few quid more from the broadcasters for supplying the feed? Lets all be honest here though. One thing is for sure .. the FIA have egg on their face over this one and there is no way they have got the balls to reverse this decision. We just have to hope upon hope that and Lewis continues to do his thing on the track. We have to believe justice will prevail. We certainly cannot believe in the FIA.
Well done Pat. Well said! We need more high profile people to step forward like Pat Symonds. His voice is much louder than us 'bias Lewis-Loving fans'and changes clearly need to be made. FIA - THIS IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY SOON - PLEASE SEE SENSE!
Ashley - superb, what a great piece to read and so right in all that you say Well said!
Good on Niki Lauda for making a comment on this. We need others whose voices might also be heard to expose this travesty!
They should be ashamed ... shame, shame, shame on them. Paul
Since the race ended yesterday I have searched long and hard for the words to describe what has happened. I just cannot find words strong enough to express my deep disgust and revulsion at the decision of the stewards. I can only help someone (Bernie) has the balls to stand up and do something about this MASSIVE injustice. It is frightening they can get away with it. Is it the end of Formula One? Maybe not, but it was one hell of a large nail in the coffin. Paul Cooke
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Posted 17/07/2009 @ 14:25
F1 is a bit harder than driving round in circles. Bye!