Hang about..... didn't Mad Max say that FOTA could go and form their own Breakaway series and the only input the FIA would have would be with the rules to check they are safe? if so then why is he and the FIA suing FOTA for doing just that?!

Williams never brought out March engineering.

timem1 you are in fact wrong, it was Ferrari documents stolen by a FERRARI employee and HANDED to McLaren employees.

hate to break the news to you DANDECTIS but uhm "altogether" is in fact a word.

Re: davratta, Mosley said that he would let a Breakaway series run if it came to it, but the FIA would still have a hand in it, in terms of reading through the rules to check for safety.

Pagani1: i've read that Mosely will not fight them if they decide to form their own breakaway series, although he said that the FIA will HAVE to read through the rules to make sure everything is safe.

re: deadheadmx, i stand corrected i know Lola built a lot of the chassis for the US open wheelers, and re: finishline: Lola build the chassis for the teams you mentioned.

finishline, who do you think builds the cars for IRL and a lot of LeMans Prototypes? Lola do so they are far from being Kitcar manufaturers.

if they are gonna hold a GP in Rome then they should ditch the OTHER Italian GP, it's getting ridiculous having countries having more then one GP, the European GP should be held somewhere like the Czech Republic or maybe Holland.

re: Woodgoat, Mercedes have a history in F1, they ran the car called the W196 as far back as 1954 and was driven by Fangio, and he won 2 WDCs with it.

this is the proof that the Ecclestone and Mosely dun even give a damn what the FANS (y'know Bernie, those who WATCH F1 on TV AND at the tracks, well the tracks that haven't been shafted by you) think, fans and drivers and teams alike have been against the idea, but hey what do we know we're only the viewing public.

i don't know what races you've been watching robson, but Ferrari have gotten away with more dodgy things then not in the past, it'll do them some good to be kicked into place by the FIA.

robson just because you hate Ross Brawn doesn't mean that he doesn't have the right to own an F1 team. methinks you are just bitter because Ferrari are being well and truly trounced by the underdogs.

beesknees2004: i suppose Ferrari haven't had a reputation for cheating.....

erm Cooper, he's won 3 out of 4 races and been on the podium in all four races.

muddwell: Sutil was well within his rights he was on a flying lap and he did not know that Webbo was on a flying lap too, he did the right thing though and apologised to Mark afterwards.

gschults: hate to break the news to ya mate, but Chris Dyer is Australian not British.

re: ryano78, i remember Justin Wilson (who is driving stateside i believe) winning the F3000 championship, and tried and failed in F1 as a test driver and he did doa a couple of races i believe, he was having issues because he is 6ft tall and had difficulty with the car.

re: domformula1, that dual braking system wouldn't happen to be the one used in the MP4/13 back in 1998 when Hakkinen and Coulthard were driving for them? If so then they weren't unpunished, as the FIA pretty darn quickly noticed how well it worked and banned the use of such tech.

domformula, if you are refering to the dual-brake system from the MP/13 from 1998, they were indeed punished, because the FIA banished it for being too innovative. Just like the twin-Chassis of the Lotus 88.

didn't Ecclestone say that Honda were no great loss when they packed it in for F1?

well put zepale, Hammy has got GENUINE talent, just look at his time in GP2.

mikesmith_dude, so Schumacher wasn't arrogant huh?

finolait.. ya honestly thinkn Max and Bernie would apologise for the wrong-thinking on the start time of this race? Even AFTER drivers had stated their worries about the start time.

there was confusion all round, it wasn't until just before the podium that Glock found out he was 3rd and Heidfeld was second,you'll find a lot of the drivers were confused too.

poor deluded robson, resorting to insulting people, if you don't like reading about Hamilton or McLaren then i suggest you don't bother commenting.

it was a Ferrari member of staff who did the stealing not McLaren, they only paid for stolen property.

timem, are you yet another one who carps on about "spygate"? they were NOT using a Ferrari design, get over it! That whole saga was in 2007...

sss2512 a certain Mr Schumacher made a Jordan competitive and got noticed by Benneton as a result.

robson are you STILL bleating on about the spygate thing?! geezus that was oin 2007 man get OVER it

Crawl back into whatever hole you came from Bernie, you seem intent on ruining F1, drivers are aginst the idea, the fans are against the idea, and the TEAMS are against it.

GerhardSA the REASON Rubens B doesn't have any championships was the result of Team orders and being the number 2 drivers.

for once i agree with robson, there was a time when strikes were threatened, in the 70s and 80s.

great to see the FIA folding faster then Superman on Laundry day with this one LOL

Well at least it ain't the world color scheme that Honda had or the 50/50 scheme BAR used in their first year of racing, the result being the fact they were told they couldn't use 2 differant color schemes on the cars.

cheating because of FERRARI EMPLOYEE giving stuff to them. go back to whatever whole you crawled out from robson and stay there you are getting tedious.

sumo2402002 what part of "glock was on the wrong tires in the wet." do you not get?!

hmmm so Ferrari were winning the world championships when Williams and McLaren were at the top of their game in the 90s huh robson? Before Michael Schumacher AND the great Brit (get over it...) Ross Brawn came along Ferrari were doing badly, maybe you should take off your scarlet glasses robson, and face facts that BRITS have helped make Ferrari the force it is now.

watchcam if you'd read the story properly it was RUMORED that the management had brought the team,something that was thrown about by the british media.

it's bad enough people slagging off Lewis Hamilton, but to slag off the Americans for wanting to form their own F1 team is stupid, lets not forget that there have been american F1 champ and drivers in the form of Phil Hill and Dan Gurney. Oh and i'm not full american before you say anything but i DO have family in North Carolina and if this venture provides jobs then it is a good thing.

davratta the reason for ProDrive not starting was the idea of customer cars and Aguri Suzuki was using the remainder of the Arrows chassis when his team took over that teams old facility.

re: mnwj nice to see someone commenting on this whole thing with a level head it makes a change to see someone not going on constantly about the whole thing, i just hope everyone else take a leaf from your book and lets the whole thing rest.

whilst i don't like Ferrari because of some of their let's say dubious tactics i have to admire Massa because of the fact he was humble in his defeat unlike some of the fans, and congratulated Hamilton in person.

can you blame Honda for turning down Bernies offer of help?!

get yer facts straight robson, it wasn't a BRIT it was a Frenchman protesting about Mercedes i think it was.

i dunno, dogs on the track might make for some interesting racing, after seeing footage of a V8 race in Australia on Question Of Sport, where a Kangaroo jumped across the track in the path of a car coming around the bend....

robson, Branson is more successful then you are or ever will be, I wish him luck with the team if he manages to get it.

what timezone are you in CrazyJoe?

whats more insulting daveyboy33i is the fact that they are BOTH brits and BE wants to rid his own country of its GP

nice bit of sarcasm there elvisbeavis LOL made my day.

a majority of F1 Teams came to England too THussey even if the cars weren't built in England stuff such as engines from Cosworth were built in Northampton even the earliest Ferraris in the Schumacher era were designed in England. Plus most of the drivers worked their way up through feeder series such as BRITISH Formula 3. Ferrari may have the "heritage payments" but races such as British GP and France and the other classic races, Monaco included DESERVE similar style of payments. All that's needed a huge crowbar to prise Bernies fist open to get to the money.

I hope the cars go all the way this time..... unlike Virgin trains around Christmas time :D

oh i wasn't disagreeing with you biso9700 far from it, there needs to be more teams, i mean in the 60s Tyrrell started out with Cossie DFV engined Matras, before going onto build their own cars, oh how times have changed, i mean even in the 90's there were teams running customer chassis from Lola.

biso9700 the whole chassis thing is part of the reason why Dave Richards PRODRIVE outfit which were meant to be running last year decided NOT to run because of the cost issues because Williams or one of the big players complained about the idea of Prodrive using a customer chassis from Lola or something like that.

jameadowcroft..... gawd if it IS Branson then i hope the cars are more reliable then his trains on Virgin Rail :p

rampante you are just tarring the whole nation with the same brush speaking as a brit, i do not drink cold tea, eat contaminated bacon OR steal car parts or roll about drunk. The idea of the Rome GP destroys the whole idea of no country should hold more then one Grand Prix.

NickUSA Morocco held a gp back in 1958.

Am i the only one who saw this coming?

ah but velocityboy BAR wasn't started from scratch, British American Tobacco took over Tyrell Racing.

hey i just hope the TV crews dun get her confused with one of the grid girls LOL

you might want to cross more then just yer fingers Jense, i'd bet good money on you NOT being there.

okay first off hussainahm and mamo159, no offense was meant towards you, what I was trying to put across was that Bernie Ecclestone is taking off GOOD races by making it too expensive for the track owners to host them, and I've got nothing against Bahrain and mamo159 if you'd read my post fully i mentioned North America as well as Europe, the fact with the rain is drivers need to test the new cars in the wet. The point i was trying to make is that Ecclestone is ruining the integrity of F1 by slowing taking away some of the best tracks just to stuff his wallet with more money, don't get me wrong it's good that there is a race in Bahrain, my main concern is that Ecclestone will decide to put races at places like Qatar or Saudia Arabia and sacrifice the CLASSIC races like the British GP and Monaco. Again i apologise for any offense i caused you hussainahm and mamo159.

don't forget Damon Hill RichardW he was on 2 wheels before making the move to 4, though he wasn't a bike champ that i recall

the guy is an honest team owner i'll give him that

now THAT'S a real storm, the teams need to be able to test the cars in conditions that are likely to effect the race, of course this is the exception as there would be no chance of a rescue, due to the fact that rescue services wouldn't be able to see let alone fly. THIS is the reason that Bernie "Andy Warhol" Ecclestone SHOULDN'T be left in charge, i know that there is huge amounts of money in the Middle East but come off it..... there are tracks in Europe and North America that are worthy, there is no need for 2 race in the Middle East.

F1_FREAK_666 you've proved one thing, you are so easy to wind-up

hate to break the news to ya summerss but uhm a majority of the Chassis for the said events Rochester has mentioned are uh built by Lola in the UK and until the US branch of Cosworth opened up the cossie engines were UK built too.

Robson change the record, if all you can do is slag off brits then you really need to get a life, just remember Ferrari have had some great BRITISH drivers. John Surtees helped get them competitive again in 1963, Mike Hawthorne took the world title for Ferrari in 1958.

would you so kind wraith as to point out WHERE in my initial statement on this story i mentioned Hamilton?

Whats the betting that Ecclestone made up the story so that he gets his way and gets the British GP kicked?

kipp73, i think you should look in the history books there have been a handful of successful AMERICAN drivers, Dan Gurney being one of the most successful ones.

well uhm aren't being a bit obvious Seb? i mean isn't that the aim of all drivers and teams?

there we go Aunty Beeb your replacement lunchtime soap opera for weekdays.... great thing is..... you don't have to pay for any actors... it's all real life!!

Peteswift i suggest that you read the story of the FIA possibly saving the British GP it lists the 6 GPs that have been on F1 since 1950 and therefore Bernie isn't allowed to touch them, no matter how much he wants to rid them and Monaco is on there with the British GP

as well the FIA should if the andy-warhol-lookalike were to have his way then europe wouldn't have any GPs... period!

doubt very much anyone would want to risk employing them.

i've gotta laugh at the photo, it looks like the car has got an ariel on it for a radio control LOL

wraith if you'd read my comment properly i was referring to all my friends, not all South Africans and Americans lol

robhandgun yes, but March F1 isn't in F1 anymore is it. and senna27..... thanks for noticing that...... i missed the Lemmy lookalike LOL

thanks for the clear-up there Kubica, i'd heard of ralliers but not open-wheelers but then again GP2 and A1Gp is hardly shown on terrestrial here in the UK.

there's a slight flaw with your logic ilAlfisto, the last i heard, Japan was an Eastern country and home of Toyota and Honda and of course Bridgestone tyres, and they are in as much financial strife as the rest of the globe.

there's one flaw with your logic robson i thought that there was a rule that a former owner of a current team or something like that couldn't run.

please tell me you're kiddin' widowfactory, with the salary Button would demand i'm sure STR would go under.

OWSIAK I'm British and would place a bet on Lewis Hamilton, but I've got lots of friends ion the US and my best mate is South African and they are ALL rooting for Hammy.

KubicaFTW i have to agree on the comment about an arab driver, there are arab racers out there, but they are of the rally ilk and not the open cockpit. Well to the best of my knowledge anyway

please Max don't run again, you and Bernie have done a great job...... of ruining F1!

ronn if Ferrari is the most beautiful car in the world and best team to work for then why did Nigel Stepney pass around documents, and Luca Di Montezemolo himself has said that he wouldn't take Lewis Hamilton on even if the guys contract was up. Get back to ruining F1 with Bernie, Max, and butt out of the drivers lives and where they should go. Re: Spikeymikey, he USED to be a racing driver in the 60s and founded the MARCH team.

they could pull off the double..... they could LOSE the championship AND lose Alonso as a result!

oh? something like a streaker at every race?

does anyone apart from Ecclestone care?

srikar World Champs also means drivers champion so in that respect McLaren are World Champs.

robson if you'd bothered to read that article about Hamilton, he was refering to ALL drivers not just himself.

if by helping Force India and STR you mean providing engines for said teams then yes Ferrari did help them F1_FREAK_666, whereas McLaren Mercedes is providing the complete drivetrain and technical help to Force India, and before you even go and accuse ME of being a Ferrari hating McLarenite i do not follow one team or driver, i follow the F1 for the RACING.

oh well Jense looks like your commitment to Honda has come back to haunt you.

hate to say this wraith but i think it's good that these 2 are playing nice, I agree that they are rivals and should stay that way, but given the current mess F1 is in thanks to Max and Bernie, teams need to band together in the hope the dictators get the heave-ho, and with the biggest teams playing nice that might just happen, though it could take a while for it to happen.

that's a touching story macsgirluk it just goes to show that there are human-beings in the world of F1.

graining, that's old news, and he put it down to a rookie mistake, the guy is in his 2nd year of F1 for gawds sake. DC has got a point, even though FA is a cry-baby when he is in the wrong car to do what he did at Singapore and Japan in an under-performing Renault in '08 was great driving.

Deepwater330 I salute you for recognising the contributions of the man that as spacedmansplif refers to him, has been one of the biggest thorns in your teams side too. I believe you to be a rare breed, a TRUE F1 fan.

It also blows the whole idea of no country should ever hold 2 GPs away but then that's been happening alot what with the Euro GP being held in Spain last year, and Germany previous years, but hey do you think the troll cares what US, the fans, want? He is slowly destroying the heart and soul of the spectacle that is F1. Someone buy him out and kick him to the kerb and work on bringing the heart and soul back to F1 before it falls by the wayside like F3000 has and the BTCC is starting to do.

if this doesn't work out and the car ends up being a mule then it's looks like it's bye bye Alonso.

messiah if your coment about McLaren cheating was in response to what I had typed, that car was from the Coulthard/Hakkinen era it's sad that innovation is frowned upon in F1 by the FIA.

I agree with PlanetF1 about the wonder that Monaco even made the list, but i think it would be a sin to dump the Monaco GP, because it throws up all sorts of winners, it's the sort of race that even the back-markers can win, just think Olivier Panis in the Ligier back in '96.

no offence France but I think it'll take Bernie to pop his clogs before there is any hope of you getting the GP back.

chrisvwyk, that is exactly the sort of problems teams had in the 60s 70s and 80s up to the MP4/13 McLaren that was designed to go around corners a lot tighter and quicker, it worked too well for the FIA and banned it and even the twin-chassis Lotus-88 got banned for being too innovative. Shame it's still going on, it'll be interesting to see what the rest of the teams come up with to deal with the new regs.

clintang that is exactly right, IF there is gonna be a European GP which is usually the main reason for there being more then one GP in a certain country and in the case of the San Marino GP there wasn't much choice really seeing as how small San Marino is, then hold it somewhere like Brno in the Czech Republic and somewhere which is pretty much up to the FIA standards, as it holds the WTCC and the FIA GT series I believe, surely with a little bit of money spent on it it'll be suitable for F1.

re: wraith i watch F1 for the racing and not for one particular driver OR team and find it annoying that people are blaming Hamiltons win last year on either the spygate OR Timo Glocks struggling to gain grip on a wet track with dry tyres which people see as a deliberate tactic to pull over to let him pass, there is also a fatal flaw in your logic, you say that Hamilton won in a Silver Ferrari, and that McLaren had the data for the pit stops for Raikkonen, yes 2007 data, so how can Hamilton have benefited from that to win in 2008? I admire KR but even you as one of his fans have got to admit that he and Ferrari as a whole made some spectacular slip-ups last season, as did Hamilton, i for one admit that that was a rookie mistake he made driving into the back of KR but what about KR binning the car into a stationary object at Singapore and wiping out his own pit-man in Valencia?

awww poor ickle Bernie getting upset because teams don't agree with his thinking, he could throw the teams that don't agree with him out of F1...... oh wait.... that means that there'll be not enough cars on the track to race..... lol.

hotstuff939, you obviously have no concept of what Ron Dennis has done, he helped McLaren win countless DRIVERS titles, and he worked his way up from mechanic with the Cooper Team then Brabham before merging his own team with McLaren courtesy of the head of Marlboro to form McLaren as we know it now, so that hardly makes him an idiot.

oh you thinking wooden cars pcornwell? wooden bodies, wooden wheels, wooden engines, wooden go?!

Looks like Luca di Montezemolo from FIAT (before people moan that he is President of Ferrari he is President of Fiat which OWNS Ferrari) might get his wish yet to race in the Colliseum LOL

THussey i do believe ING is one of the banks in the world that is suffering quite a bit through this financial thing. So i can't blame them for cutting back on sponsorship.

I'm not saying nor have i EVER said i know better then the FIA scruntineers, and unless i am very much mistaken the guy who RECEIVED the details from Stepney got the boot and the FIA Scrutineers once again found NOTHING of Ferrari on the McLaren, in fact the only ones who need to face reality wraith are Ferrari fans such as yourself, who can't face up to the reality that FERRARI LOST the drivers crown to a McLaren driver, even though you got the CONSTRUCTORS title.

Oh so you know better then FIA Scrutineers then wraith?

CrazyJoeDavola i think the motorsport drivers from Abu Dhabi are more then likely been competing in the Paris-Dakar. Not even sure they are part of the A1GP series either. Bernie Ecclestone doesn't give a rats about what anyone who is a fan of F1 thinks, the only thing he thinks about is how big his replacement wallet is gonna be lol.

LOL!!!!

y'know i'm surprised the Andy Warhol Doppelganger hasn't sue Youtube for posting F1 races without his permission.

So what if McLaren won the Constructors championship back in 1998 they've got good drivers and have HAD good drivers.

gilgen please tell me HOW my memory is selective? you've only confirmed what i have said, by removing these so-called items which were from plans GIVEN to McLaren BY a disgruntled Ferrari member of staff, that there was nothing of Ferrari on the car, so enough about the spygate already, it is getting boring.

It'll be sad to see the loss of WILLIAMS F1 should they go under, considering what they achieved early on giving Keke Rosberg and Alan Jones the Drivers titles in the early 80s then following it up with Prost and Mansell and Hill etc etc, though i have a bad feeling that they will go the way of Tyrell and Lotus, and disappear due to lack of money.

erm isn't Flav also FAs manager? or at least WAS he his manager? if so then of course he'd say that, whilst i agree FA is a good driver, his whole attitude leaves a lot to be desired, ie: throwing his toys out of the pram because he either gets upstaged by his co-driver or he hasn't won the championship.

ah bubchronic, McLaren never cheated, as they had nothing of Ferrari on either the 2007 OR 2008 car, and if you are refering to the Spa incident again they weren't cheating, as Hamilton let Raikkonen pass him again after he gained the lead by cutting the chicane, as per the rules it was only 2hrs AFTER the race that the guy lost his win and Ferrari got the win.

This may sound strange but doesn't A1GP use something similar to KERS? That the drivers can only use on 1 lap or something like that? If this is so then why aren't teams looking at how that works and developing it from there?

another thing too NickUSA is the FIA and the Troll need to stop showing favoritism towards the Prancing Horse with extra money they get for competing.

Enzo_Kemm: I do believe there has been strikes in the past by drivers, i mean apart from the US GP in which all the Michelin drivers pulled out over safety fears. This was back in the 60s and 70s.

wraith, enough about the spygate, there was NOTHING of Ferrari on the McLaren car and that was in 2007.

BuggyRider.... You'll need a crowbar to get the troll to release more money, he's that tightfisted. I hope BMW do really well this year, so that we don't lose another team.

the prize for the silliest comment on this thread goes to Sydjed for coming across as thinking McLaren rigged the weather so Heikki couldn't test the car! LOL

yea i agree with you slide, but Sir Frank is right about the usual order taking the lead, i do hope that Williams ends back with the glory days of when Senna, Prost, Mansell and Hill won. Every team has had their down stages, Ferrari did when it was Berger and Alessi up until Schumacher started to get them back to winning form with the help of Ross Brawn and the designs of John Barnard and of course McLaren had their down times when Williams were winning.

So uhm BuggyRider dare i ask.....? do you happen to follow BMW the Owners of the Cooper Works name?

well put biso9700 so what you are saying gilgen is say the Cleveland Indians or the Chicago White Sox being paid more then say Colorado Rockies, Arizona Diamondbacks and Florida Marlins for winning the Baseball World Series just because the Cleveland and Chicago teams have been playing baseball and have been in the World series since its inception and the Colorado, Arizona and Florida teams have only competed in since the 90s onwards. No the team who wins the World Series gets the same amount no matter HOW old the team is. You aren't doing yourself any favours by petty name-calling.

can't say i blame Credit Suisse given the current financial climate

keep up with the times robson, there IS no DTI investigation.

hey hotstuff939 Ron Dennis has achieved a HELLUVA lot with McLaren, considering he started out as a mechanic at Cooper and other teams and worked his way up to make McLaren one of the most successful teams in F1 so your comments makes very little if not no sense whatsoever.

I think Force India made the right choice to go with McLaren-Mercedes for the technical help.

oh mishaps such as engine failures, and Massa showing off his ballet skills huh robson? I agree with one thing The Troll said about Ferrari they did provide the clowns for the F1 last year, be afraid be very afraid, robson, Ferrari might just end up back in the doldrums if they're not careful.

hotstuff939, may i suggest that you wait until it's on the test track before passing judgement? It may not have the looks but it may have the clout to be a winner. I'm awaiting robsons comments and am gonna LOL when he tries to point out which bits were stolen from Ferrari.

not forgetting that the TOYOTA team as a WHOLE took a gamble by letting their drivers stay out on dry tires considering it rained the last few laps. It just goes to show how pathetic some fans are especially those of the Red variety who think that it was a deliberate move to let Hamilton win. I wish Toyota some success this season.

hopefully Bernie will stop paying off drivers to agree with his thinking. Oh wait that's never gonna happen, there's more chance of West Ham football(whom i support)winning the Premiership.

watchcam, now be fair, the M25 is always chock-a-block with traffic LOL and the last time i checked, there was never any roadworks with contraflows on any F1 track i've seen....... though come to think of it..... that'd make for some interesting racing LOL. and once again robson spews his hatred of all things that are not red by finding some way of worming in the "spygate" thing again even though this is about HONDA not McLaren.

Renault know where the issue is and gonna get it sorted so it'll be ready i'm sure.

the world of motorsport wouldn't be anywhere without the british, they put the engine in the back of the car, they pioneered the use of carbon fibre AND the semi-auto box, and the last time i checked the Ford DFV engine was designed and built in the UK by Cosworth who are based in Northhampton and also a lot of the AMERICAN Indy cars and even the Le Mans cars are built by LOLA a BRITISH company the cars being the chassis. SirJibby I sincerely hope you are wrong about the Donington not being ready in time, but i fear i have to agree with you, the problem here is the fact that the whole planning process takes forever to go through, as with any big project.

PNGF1 the lack of the number 13 car is the same reason there isn't a 13th floor in hotels and hospitals, they consider it bad luck so therefore skip straight to the number 14.

bad news robson, Mercedes have offered the engine for Honda PROVIDED they find a buyer.

gian, the SPYGATE was in 2007 this is 2009 you muppet.

robson, stop it, just stop it, all you do is moan moan moan about spygate whenever possible. It's getting boring now, if ever there was an example of a bad Ferrari fan and bad loser then you surely are the best example.

they should cart you off tot he same nursing home robson.

Seriously, all those Bitter Ferrari fans whose only gripe is the so-called Spygate saga in which a FERRARI employee handed FERRARI documents to the Mclaren and lets not forget... RENAULT had Ferrari data too, then you seriously need to get out more, PLUS there were no Ferrari items on the 2008 car, AFTER being checked over by the FIA.

good news for robson..... the red button to him probably means the OFF button LOL

yea the Ferrari F60 got a name change to the Ferrari Enzo.

i feel sorry for Kimi, it seems robson has got a crush on the guy, where do i send the sympathy card to?

hmmm too well-mannered like all Ferrari drivers, i seem to recall Schumacher being anything BUT well-mannered, plus robson, Murray Walker ADMITS he's made slip-ups, and he has got a valid point, last year KR was worse then poor, as he himself admitted that sometimes his heart wasn't in it, how else do you explain his crashing, and running over his own pitman and it only validates my thoughts that he is in no-way worth the reported $35M contract he's under.

jealousy is a cruel mistress robson, you're just bitter because these 2 drivers have got more talent in their little fingers than you'll ever have.

by the rest of us robson I assume you mean just you as you are the only crybaby on here who thinks that the UK and Australia don't deserve a GP.

oh so you'd rather everyone be as miserable as you are then robson?

Well put Howee, the guy knows motorsport, but given the financial situation all over the globe and the overheads that have been mentioned, there will be a miniscule chance of Honda being bought before the start of play in March. About the same chance as The Troll not being greedy and suffocating the sport.

newsflash spikeymikey, there IS a financial crisis around the world y'know, and c13epe how has the guy screwed up the WRC? Last i checked his ProDrive guys, ran the Suburu team, and i'm sure, yes, McRae and Richard Burns and Petter Solberg i think, all drove and WON the drivers title in WRC, the fact Suburu pulled out of WRC is not the fault of Dave Richards, if you read the news, it's because of the global financial meltdown, the same reason why Honda pulled out of F1, Kawasaki out of MotoGP and Audi pulling out of ALMS despite being at the top of the sport and winning virtually every year since ALMS was set up. The guy was meant to be running in F1 last year with the ProDrive name, but it ended up not racing because Williams or someone complained about the use of customer cars or something along those lines.

bad news robson, the planning got allowed, tell you what, keep your bigoted hate campaign to yourself then maybe just maybe those Ferrari fans who hate you might just respect you, but no chance of that is there. I hope that the work makes good progress from now on.

If Honda gets brought by Schumacher then that's it, i'm switching to Indy or A1GP

I wish Mssrs Fry and Brawn the best of luck.

erm SteveJeeper you'd be surprised how much technology on F1 cars make an appearance on road cars, like Ferrari has used some of IT'S F1 tech on it's road cars, Traction control too is another innovation rooted in motor-sport that made a move to road cars i believe.

the medal system works in A1GP because that is an international sport with NATIONAL teams using the same equipment, cars, chassis, engines etc etc, they don't call it the world cup of motor-racing for nothing, but in F1 there are too many variables, the Troll says it is an added incentive for drivers to overtake, but not for the smaller teams, who don't have the same mega-bucks budgets as the Big 5 (Ferrari, McLaren, Toyota, BMW and Renault)the only time a smaller team would win a medal under the system would be at Monaco, which throws up all sorts of surprises Olivier Panis winning for instance, and for Ligier in 1996. Quick someone distract Bernie whilst someone calls the men in white coats as he is OBVIOUSLY losing his mind.

Meyerweb: that's exactly what Sauber used before they got bought by BMW and look how well they did with a year old Ferrari engine in some cases i think, they did better then Ferrari or were close to them in the running. Not bad for a team that was only a small team.

f1bestkind i gotta agree with you on the human error thing, just thinking along the issues too where Kimi wiped out 2 of his pit crew in differant races, and then a few years back when a car was released from the pit lane at a race (can't remember which one it was or the driver) with the rear jack still attached to the back of the car ending up with the jack flying off near the end of the pitlane luckily not in the path of oncoming traffic, even Nakajima on his first race mowing down his own pitcrew on his first ever pitstop i think in 2007 could be classed as human error, and Jos Verstappen's car catching fire when the fuel hose leaked onto the hot exhaust, could even be a form of human error. The only way to REALLY dispose of human error is to remove the human element, which unfortunately would include the drivers, if the cars had a system like LeMans prototypes have and Touring cars too, where the driver presses a button and a hydraulic jack raises the car leaving the crew to fuel and change the tyres, that might just take some of the risk out of it, but therefore make it less exciting. Afterall, wheres the fun if a team and before Ferrari fans moan i'm not refering to just the Prancing Horse, had a SNAFU during pitstops?

You are wasting your time Taffy, hence my comment. Even if the Spirit of the Late Great Enzo came and told robson to stop with the hate campaign it wouldn't happen. There's more chance of winning the lottery jackpot everytime INCLUDING the euromillions, before robson giving the Ferrari fanbase a badname ceases.

to clarify what Howee says, about you robson, a brit living in Australia is still a brit, so basically you are slagging yourself off when you are slagging off all brits. Also your comment about Kenyan pilots was racist, I'm surprised you were even allowed to post it.

lol yea but would the welsh parliament fund it? Sure they'll fund the transport system to get you TO The track but fund the track? dunno about that, unless the Anglesey track (which Fifth Gear used to use in series of old got done up to F1 standards, though lol might be deemed a security risk, what with the RAF base and the Nuclear power station nearby.

oh dear oh dear robsons parents obviously never taught him the concept of sharing. Oh well, a Ferrari engine is better then no engine.

spacedmansplif, that's an insult to Webber, the guy is a likeable bloke lol. It'll be good to see Mark on the grid this year. I hope is fit enough to race.

get off your high horse gr8fulferari sheesh i was pointing out the fact that there was cases of unsafe release TWICE with the system, both involving Massa, being released in front of Sutil, and then the release of Massa with the fuel hose still attached, i'm sorry if you think that my last post is becuase i hate Ferrari, they are not my favorite team but that doesn't mean i wish them ill, so think before you throw about wild accusations.

i wonder how many "unsafe" releases there will be this year LOL!

Jackie might be right, but Mosley and the troll are running the sport like a dictatorship and you know from the news how difficult it is to remove a dictator from power.

The only way F1 can be saved from itself is if Ecclestone is forced into retirement and AWAY from the sport, as he is partially responsible for the state it is in now, by sending the race to places like China, and soon Russia, and not forgetting Turkey, and the middle east, places where there are no drivers or teams for the natives to follow, at least with Italy you have Ferrari and Toro Rosso, the UK McLaren, Williams, Hamilton etc etc, the sooner Ecclestone stops digging a deeper hole for F1 the better.

also if i am one of these so-called biased Brits gilgen then how do go about explaining the fact that i admire Massa and Vettel and Hakkinen who, if memory serves me correctly, are BRAZILIAN, GERMAN and FINNISH, notice not one of those are British. so again shut up or put up.

Alonso and Charitable dun go in the same sentence do they SirJibby?

how dare you say i'm a Hamilton Fanatic gilgen, I watch F1 for THE RACING not for one damn driver, it just so happens that Hamilton has impressed in the 2yrs he's been in F1, so shut up or put up.

thank you over, methinks button is a tad overrated plus i doubt that he's gonna have a drive next year, as Force India kept Sutil (AKA Massa's mechanics target of unsafe-release twice last year LOL) and Fisi.

if anyone is sad gilgen, it is you and robson. McLaren had NOTHING of Ferrari on their 08 car, and the weight distribution is changed on ALL cars regardless what team they race for, all cars weight the same INCLUDING the the weight of the driver, why do you think they get weighed at the end of the race? The weight is moved around depending on the track they are at, as for the Schumacher/Hill incident MS CLAIMED it was a race incident, but a helluva lot of people weren't convinced. You want to know WHY people dislike robson then i suggest you read through some of the previous posts of his, where he makes offensive remarks about Lewis Hamilton AND British, and any team that is NOT Ferrari, as he would rather it is a one (prancing) Horse race. Also how he acts all childish when someone says something that he doesn't agree with.

act your age robson, unless your claim to be 61 is months not years, actually that might explain why you are so childish!

the only idiot here robson is YOU, but of you being an idiot wouldn't realise that you are an idiot.

I've always admired the Brno track in the Czech republic where they race the WTCC though for some strange reason i can't imagine the little Troll putting a race there, not when there is already an Eastern European race held in Hungary, oh well here's hoping.

god robson you are a complete and utter idiot, if all you can do is bring up the stupid spygate again and again, chance the record it's getting boring, just like you are.

yea shouldn't the european GP be held in a country like Holland or something? or some other country that DOESN'T have it's own GP

stop with your BS robson, you are a nobody and Hamilton is SOMEBODY, and he's more well known around the world amongst F1 fans then you are idiot.

robson goes off again throwing a tantrum because he's been caught out again and again, and resorts to petty name calling i'm surprised his mom lets him even use the computer if all he does is spout abuse when people disagree with him.

I read somewhere Mclaren gave you the teaboy job robson, how humiliating for you would that be LOL

and you wonder why people think you are robson gilgen LOL

gilgen my point bweing about the Massa Boourdais incident was the fact that MASSA was bitching that it was a just punishment even though he was in the wrong, and the thing with the dossier and Renault was more on the Spygate, and the fact that they should have been punished as well and ditto Ferrari, because they cocked up their security and let the stuff out of their hands, and again I point out that McLaren had nothing of Ferrari on the car, so I dun give a damn about the age of the files that were in Renault possession,they should still have been punished just like McLaren were,and in regards to Hamilton being a dangerous driver the GUY RACES as you should do in F1, you know MOTOR-RACING! What would you rather the guy do? Stop at the end of the pit lane, look left then right then left again and then check his mirrors to see if it is safe to pull out?! The the Hill incident i spoke of was a case of Schumacher SAID he was struggling with a damaged car, not too sure many people believed that. so before you go and slate me by accusing me of NOT knowing what I'm talking about, think before you type! And robson, you have admitted countless times that you are NOT Australian but in fact was born and raised in the UK, and you think all Australians are fat lazy slobs who'd rather driver everywhere then ride a bike, i'm surprised EITHER Country would let you stay there. You are one of the biggest hypocrites on this board, you go and slag off any team that's not Ferrari and ALL british drivers or british members of staff in ALL teams, despite the fact that it has been BRITISH people responsible for quite a bit of the technology involved in F1, LIKE the use of Carbon fiber, AND monocoque chassis, AND the rear-engine layouts oh yes not forgetting the use of the semi-automatic gearbox. I think the only award you should get robson is a big conical hat with a Great big letter "D"

well He's agreeing with Michael Schumacher robson you bonehead, PLUS the guy is a 2time world champion which is more then you are. Sheesh you are one of the most hateful people on the board.

hmmm right robson, back to planet earth, where everyone else lives, the same Ferrari who are crapping themselves over the KERS system and are trying desperatly to get it implemented a couple of years later.

f1nestkind just wanna correct you, the sprint you refer to was Singapore and for some reason i had Yakety Sax (the Benny Hill theme) going through my head when i watched that LOL

NEWSFLASH!!! hotstuff939 oh and Ferrari have a clean record of fair-play huh? can think of at least 2 instances Schuamacher ramming Villeneuve of the track in an attempt to stop him getting the driver title, and i'm pretty sure parking up the car on the track at the end of his qualifying session in order to stop any other driver beating his time. daveyboy33i: I'm pretty sure robson's mommy won't let him travel by himself i'm sure she drives him to school in the mornings!

welshwarrior, i do believe soldiers get recognition, it's called a medal. and to quote gilgen gilgen Posted 31/12/2008 @ 15:29 View all gilgen's posts just shows that the "honours" system is a farce. there are many many more deserving people deserving recognition, even in F1. DC, whilst not my cup of tea, has done more for the sport. maybe nigel stepney should also be honoured, for taking secrets from italy and giving them to a "british" team. hamilton is to be an inspiration to other youngsters???? i hope not, as he is a dangerous driver who likes to abuse the rules. and that is from the other drivers! Let me see, who else abuses the rules, oh yes Ferrari does, the Massa/Bourdais incident springs to mind, Seb got punished for being in the RIGHT, Schumacher used to do the same thing too, like y'know parking the car up on the track to prevent others getting a better qualifying time and not forgetting him ramming Hill off the track and a few years later pulling the same stunt on Villeneuve. Also at least Hamilton admits when he is in the wrong, how many other drivers do you know that do that? give the guy a break will ya. and you failed to mention Renault were also in possession of Ferrari property as well. and Flat_Fukkin_Out i wouldn't go out in public and say that otherwise you'd be thrown in jail!

If Kimi bins his car into a wall next year his name might as well be Kimi Wrecking-'em

hotstuff939: you're not one of the pitiful sore losers that are upset that a McLaren driver won the driver championship are you? get over it. and race: I think the other reason that they were able to do a parade for Hakkinen was also there wasn't such a bad credit issue when he won compared to now. That or the Woking council had all their funds tied in Icesave when that bank went kaput! LOL

time for the troll to retire, Jenson Button has had countless chances and he has blown them, in the 8yrs he's been in F1 he's had only the one win. BErnie should stop meddling with F1 ESPECIALLY when it comes to drivers, the guy is gonna drive it into the ground if he is not careful. as for Button, time for him to skulk away quietly and find some other form of Racing to compete in as i think now that no other team will touch him.

anyone else noticed the 2 tracks this guy mentioned are 2 tracks that his team buggered things up at? with Unsafe releases for Massa and Kimi Raikkonen wiping out his own pit crew and of course not forgetting Massa's trip down the pit lane with his fuel hose still attached LOL!

first of all gilgen get your facts straight, if we're denegrating robson for hating Hamilton then what is he doing when he is slagging off ALL British people and any team that ISN'T Ferrari? See it works both ways. If anyone is denegrating people it's robson who when things don't go HIS way he resorts to calling people names and throwing his toys out of the pram. Second of all i'm pretty sure the reason people compared you to robson is because you brought up the spygate incident which robson goes on and on about when things don't go his way, even with proof that there was no evidence of Ferrari technology on the 2008 car after being scrutineered by the FIA, y'know the people who are in overall charge of F1, but hey what good are the facts if you can't except them.

brucetravis: how's bout threatening him with a huge wage cut? that might work LOL

daveyboy33i: Max needs to leave at least ONE light on so that there is some sign of life left in F1.

y'know robson, my kids have got more brains then you have and they don't stoop so low as you do and call people names when things don't go their way, you claim to be 61, is that 61 years or 61 months?

daveyboy33i: i'm assuming JV is a typo, and you mean JB.... in which case i agree Button is overrated.

junaidfiaz: first off Ferrari wouldn't provide engines this year because Honda said they'd help the new owners so i'm assuming that's the powertrain provided. second of all lol robson would never approve of it. Well robson you admitted elsewhere that you are BRITISH claiming to be living in Australia, so by your amazing "logic" you've as good as wished that you weren't on the list. Congratulations if ever you needed proof that you aren't as smart as you claim, there you have it!

I'm sorry Filipe, but wages for drivers DO needa be cut, or at least capped, $35m for Kimi Raikkonen is wayyyyyyyy too much.

so you admit that you're a moron then robson

again robson crows about the spygate.... Mclaren didn't STEAL the data you idiot, it was a p***ed off Ferrari employee who put it on the market, so it wasn't stolen by McLaren but by the Ferrari employee. maybe Ferrari should do a clear-out of their fans, starting off by kicking you to the kerb robson, you are an embarrassment to Ferrari.

wilson, robson is living in his own little hell, he still can't handle the fact that his Ferrari team lost out on the drivers championship.

I'm a Pom too ROBSON and proud of it, and you are about as Australian as the Pope is Jewish you've been caught in a lie countless times, the F1 Broadcasters in Australia is Network TEN and ONE from 2009 onwards AUSTRALIAN Channels so again the question Biso9700 asked you elsewhere..... Do you have your own satellite in orbit so you can watch ITV and BBC (British Channels)? You'll find most people agree with what Fluffy said..... ABOUT YOU. At least when other people make an error they admit it where as you resort to calling people names when you've been caught out. You must be in constant pain, you have your head so far up your own backside that can be the only explanation for the amount of s*** you spew out. Go for it Lewis at least you are admitting to errors.

robson you pillock the reason TATA are sponsoring Ferrari is because they went into partnership with FERRARI'S PARENT company FIAT, to build cars. Yes it's true.... Ferrari are owned by FIAT.

well said Aiden, oh btw robson seeing as how you like to correct spelling mistakes..... it's spelt PRIVILEGE not priveledge.

robson: RON I WOULDN'T TURN MY BACK ON ANYTHING OR ANYONE IF I WAS YOU You resorting to threats now are you? that's stooping low, even by your standards

NEWS FLASH ROBSON!!! Not everyone watches F1 for Ferrari, despite your deluded opinions, the last time i checked there WERE other teams in F1 like, i know this is a swear word to you.... MCLAREN, Force India, Toyota etc etc it's a shame that a bigot like you can't see that. Maybe you ought to stop listening to what the little voices in your head are saying for once! LOL

robson put a damn sock in it, you criticise every one and everything.

ElvisBEavis, you mustn't forget it was a Brit who designed the FIRST carbon Fibre F1 car and who introduced Semi-auto gearboxes to F1 WHILST with Ferrari the same guy who helped Ferrari get back to the competitive respectability back in 1997 with the F310B driven by Schumacher, the guys name? John Barnard the car was designed in... the country slips me.... oh wait yes.... BRITAIN! put that in your pipe and smoke it robson.

for your information robson..... ALL drivers need to take a wage cut, because if you hadn't noticed..... there is a global financial meltdown going on, with US carmakers asking for financial bailout, and UK carmakers asking for a bailout, that's why HONDA pulled out of the F1 championship, ditto Suburu and Suzuki from WRC and AUDI from ALMS even though Audi were on the longest winning streak EVER. You're lucky that Ferrari are still around, considering that up to a few years ago the parent company FIAT were in dire financial straits too, so LOL if they'd gone under if no-one stepped forward.... Ferrari would've gone down too.

On the subject of broken legs.... didn't Johnny Herbert smash up both his legs during and serious crash in a lower series race (F3 or something like that) he though he wouldn't race again, but he made it to F1. So DC does make some sort of sense with the statement about F1 Drivers and broken legs.

gilgen, the word GLOBAL mean nothing to you? and they didn't CHEAT i refer you to the fact that the cars were deemed to have NOTHING from Ferrari on them, and if they cheated then Renault had data from Ferrari, so how is it THEY weren't punished, try working that out, i give you 2 days then get back us with workings out :) in regards to ING Fluffy, It's Santander that sponsors, Alonso.

you talk total BS sometimes robson, go back to playing with your scalectrix that's the closest you'll EVER get to driving an F1 car.

didn't Nico Rosberg join Williams in the first place because his dad won the WDC back in the early 80s? and shut up robson.

robson again you carp on about the "Spygate" and you've obviously not learnt that it was a DISGRUNTLED FERRARI member of staff who was touting it, and it was a McLaren worker who got the data, and the FIA, that's right the FIA the people who are in overall charge of the sport of F1 found nothing of Ferrari on the McLaren car. The sooner you drop the bleating about spygate, then the sooner people might actually respect what you say. You are not even worthy to be an F1 fan if all you can do is attack Lewis Hamilton and not make any sensible comments. back to the topic, Lewis is making absolute sense with what he is saying. These new regulations and the return to full-slicks and the changes in the aero-dynamics should make for some interesting racing.

I can see a lot of drivers throwing strops about having to take a wage cut lol.

I wish her luck, if Danica Patrick and Katherine Legge prove anything then it is women CAN drive a car competitively in the male dominated sport.

there you go being childish when someone says something that isn't to your liking robson as for your bike.... has your mommy taken off your training wheels yet?!

summerss..... y'mean Raikkonnen HAS a personality?! LOL

DanG90 Subaru have pulled out of WRC and so has Suzuki and also Audi pulled out of the American Le Mans Series despite being on a huge winning streak, i quite honestly don't expect to see Dave Richards back in F1 for next season if anything because of the financial situation now. He might be there on the grid in 2010 if the global financial downturn changes to an upward direction.

I heard that you'd got the job at the BBC making the teas for all the staff robson.

just like you then F1_Freak_666

my god robson you are STILL upset that Lewis won and still think that Glock pulled over to let him past, sheesh when are you gonna face the fact that Timo Glock was ON THE WRONG TYRES IN THE WET!!!!

robson so what you are saying is that all Australians are fat lazy slobs who get no exercise and would rather drive everywhere then to get any exercise, oh boy they must really LOVE you in Australia if you spouted off that sort of attitude.

robson you are a complete moron, tell you what you race against a car on a greasy track on a bike and then let's see you get done for various dangerous things if you fall off and cause a crash if the car crashed and caused damage, oh and btw it was a SHOWCASE RACE not for serious. The safety of all people involved has got to be taken into consideration, alright the race din go on but the right call was made for safety's sake.

what part of "McLaren had no parts of Ferrari on their car after scrutineering by the FIA and it was a disgruntled FERRARI Employee who was touting it thereby Ferrari should've been punished as well!" do you not get robson?

if Coulthard backed losers then he must be funding your bigoted comments robson.

*correction* to Paraphrase Firebird robson.... when you took your IQ test as you so famously claim to be a rocket scientist..... did they leave off the minus symbol before the number? You hate Hamilton we know that, there's a simple solution to it if you don't like reading about him then if you see a headline with either LEWIS or McLaren or Hamilton in the sentence then just don't read it, believe me... try that, you'll feel all warm and fuzzy inside and won't have to cry into your teddybear every night!

to quote robson if honda are silly enough to have an obligation to pay button 24m pounds they desrve to go under. his salary is the biggest waste of money in F1. they could have got a hot young gun for a fraction of that. maybe if they had been more careful with their money they could still be in F1 i'd laugh if you ended up with egg in yer face if Ferrari decided to pull out!

i agree race...... Renault did the same thing, when they took over Benetton, they returned as a TEAM rather then just engine manufacturer the last time they ran as a team being 1986.

ah but see..... F1_Freak_666 it is you who is the moron unfortunately, because it was INTERNATIONAL RACING DRIVER OF THE YEAR, Loeb wouldn't win it because he was TESTING THE CAR, not racing it!!if it was International RALLYING Driver of the year then yes he deserved to win.

you must enjoy the taste of sour-grapes robson because all you've done since Hamilton won the drivers championship is moan moan moan.

to quote F1_FREAK_666 robson, Hollow Words from a vile man!

brade84, Audi aren't likely to do F1 seeing as they've pulled out of the American Le Mans Series even though they were champions for umpteen years running, and the way I see it... the World Rally Championship could lose a couple of manufacturers too.

again with the BRIT bashing can someone PLEASE put robson in his place please at Planet F1?

give it a rest robson

jenson button had his chance a long time ago and blew it.

get a life robson

erm stream it was williams who screwed jenson around, taking him on contract for 2-3yrs then after one year they loaned him for Benneton/Renault for the remainder of his contract

hate to break the news to you F1nestkind Ford sold Cosworth a few years back, and even though Ford is the usual name that goes with Cosworth, there are other companies that called on Cosworths brains for their engines, Mercedes-Benz being one for the 190E and GM for the XE series of engines for Vauxhall/Opel. They've even done work for Suburu too.

triumphken IF Dave Richards gets it it won't be Aston Martin it'll most likely be ProDrive, as they were supposed to be in the 2008 championship but had no choice but to pull out because a couple of teams were bitching about the use of customer cars.

thefasteddie how'd you know robson was ginger?! oh wait you meant JB LOL i'm one of the few who think he's overrated too the guy has had years to prove himself and he's not really shone too much in those years.

y'know I'd love to see the look on robsons face IF ferrari pulled out of formula 1 then it might shut him up with his anti-hamilton rants

judging by robsons comment methinks he's terrified that Lewis might win the championship again next year LOL

you aren't the only one Yellow plus Lewis has an added incentive too...... i heard that if he wins 2 championships in 3yrs he gets a Mclaren F1 given to him :D Keep up the good work Hammy.

Mario Theissen has got good reason to be proud of his boys... they've done a good job this year and the team has done wonders in the 3yrs since they changed from Sauber and considering how well Sauber did with year-old Ferrari engines things could only have gotten better.

The Medal system works for A1GP because that is a World Cup of motorsport with NATIONS racing all driving the SAME car with the SAME powerplant and using the same tyres, like medals are given in the Olympics etc etc. But it just won't work in F1, i have to agree with thought that it'd only be an advantage to the TOP teams because they have got enough funding to work on the cars and keep them evolving, whereas the smaller teams would struggle. Time for Bernie to retire methinks.

well said markhicks69..... i wonder what the weather is like on Planet Lewisisoverated LOL

congrats DC.... i guess it's out with the cigars then :D

get a life robson

yea get well soon Mark and erm the word oops springs to mind.

to those who think the Gnome has lost his mind..... yup he has..... time to check into the ol' clinic Bernie

brits are here to stay in F1 like it or lump it, and where can i buy that time machine robson, then i can get my winning lotto tickets in advance, seeing as you seem to know ferrari are going to be hard to catch.

LOL i was actually wondering if Kimi deliberately binned his car at Singapore!

lol what would be REALLY impossible mrniceguy is schumacher (anyone noticed how that is German for COBBLERS?!) trying to ram another rider off the track and NOT wipe himself out LOL

Well done Nico, if you can't shine at Williams then you deserve the chance to shine elsewhere, it was harsh of Williams to refuse to let you leave.

Don't forget the annoying Paperclip on the pit computers :P

nev0618 my point is a valid one too you bonehead, name me one Turkish Driver and one Chinese F1 Driver. Okay so Bernie milks profits from the circuits but then how do you explain Brazil being packed? Because of Filipe Massa, Spains races, Because of Alonso, Italy, Ferrari, Toro Rosso and Italian Drivers, and Germany because of Mclaren-Mercedes, BMW Sauber et al.

she musta been fed-up with looking down at him all the time.

yes we get it.. you hate brits and any car that isn't Ferrari, keep your bigoted statements to yourself then you won't be vilified by everyone on the forum. Just remember Ross Brawn helped Ferrari win the world championship for Michael Schumacher and Ross Brawn is a brit.

Ferrari will win on any track?! LOL You talk complete rubbish mosta the time robson you forget the track is named AFTER a Ferrari driver, and hmmm lets see...... Renault won in Singapore this year and Japan and Toro Rosso won in Italy. BMW won in Canada this year too, and McLaren won in the others with Ferrari taking a fair share.

*correction* The Main issue with the Asian race is the need for drivers from the respective countries to BOOST the support, we have no Turkish F1 drivers, and no Chinese drivers either. The Indian GP that is planned should have a fan-base because of Force India, and okay there are Japanese drivers and teams but how many of the Japanese drivers have had the car under them to win points? Encourage more Turkish Drivers and Chinese drivers to enter motorsport at the highest level then maybe, just maybe there might be more spectators at these tracks.

good idea summerss I'll flip the coin and heads Filipe Massa wins..... Tails Kimi Wins lol

Do you honestly think Alonso would even come onto the show after he was ripped to pieces by Clarkson? Plus Richard hammond pretty much ruined the guys F1 -winning car when he did that lap of Silverstone.

We need Montreal it's one of the best races, F1 without a North American race is gonna do more harm then good. We need it at least this year, if anything for the people who spent loads of money for advance tickets only to be told a couple of months ago that sorry the race has been cancelled.

Well earned Franz, your team outdid the SENIOR team.

actually summerss schumacher was punished.... oh wait no he got let off the schumacher incident part deux (him ramming into Villeneuve) he got punished but was let off because he wasn't in the running for the championship, then there was the bargeboard incident where Ferrari got fined..... oh wait no.... again they were let off on appeal, robson you DO have an unhealthy obsesion with Ferrari, get help for it.

mebbe JB should shave then him+car should be light enough to race :D

ON the subject of weight..... i remember when Lewis Hamilton was a guest on Top Gear, Jeremy Clarkson was talking about how the cars are designed to include the drivers weights, and then he made a quip, about Jenson Button chucking the hard work of the designers out of the window by having face-fluff LOL!!

Hamilton senior made huge sacrifices to pay for his son's racing, like taking on extra jobs..... I bet robson and F1_FREAK_666 wouldn't do that sort of thing.

good luck Mika hope you find plenty of future F1 champs.

frenchman.... don't forget his talent in F3000 as well.... the guy is a good driver, he's just had unfortunate luck this year.

boohoo luca i agree with you Arnett, luca should shut up and stand back.

robson if anyone is the moron it is you, pay attention to the facts BEFORE spreading your vile rubbish about the spygate. the FIA scrutineered the '08 car and passed it for racing so go and sit in the corner and put on this pointed hat with a huge D for dunce on it and stay there for the duration.

uhm robson i do believe you need a BRAIN to think..... so that is a bit of an impossibility for you!

robson stop bleating on about the damn spygate..... just take your meds and the pain of a McLaren driver winning will be a lot easier to handle, and btw you obviously don't pay attention, McLarens car was scruntineered by the FIA, if the FIA found that they had gained an advantage with bits from Ferrari then they wouldn't have been allowed to compete. So get your facts straight before bitching.

Oh get a life robson, if all you can do is bleat on and on about a McLaren Driver winning the driver championship and not a ferrari one then it's a miracle you get anything else done. The sooner you get over it the sooner you'll be able to get some REAL work done.

hate to break the news to you F1_Freak_666 but it was Singapore that the release with the fuel hose still on happened NOT valencia.

methinks robson suffers from multiple personalities his rantings don't seem to be consistent.

terji, McLaren keep the original trophys the drivers get replicas of 'em.

oh boohoo robson, big deal, you hate Hamilton we get it, change the damn record for gods sake

well said otis_dsouza Whitmarsh is showing respect for Ferrari and Massa and Ferrari have praised Hammy for taking the drivers title, and Massa wants to congratulate the guy in person. What would the ones tearing these 2 down rather happen? Guns at dawn?

methinks there might be Sour grapes here lol

abhinav_102, grow up, it is about ALONSO too not just Hamilton. The story is about ALONSO coming to congratulate Hamilton on winning the Drivers Title.

oh how pathetic you are robson you idiot, at least i don't resort to slagging off say Raikkenon because he won the WC last year, so shut your trap before attacking ME get it through your thick so-called aussie skull that he won the championship fair and square the sooner you accept that the sooner people might respect what you say. You are nothing but a pathetic hate-filled little man who doesn't like it when people aren't talking about Ferrari, GET A LIFE!

Ironis you use the term pathetic robson..... because that is exactly what you are!

oh shut up robson, at least he HAS a girlfriend. With your idiocy women must run a mile from you.

I_say_chaps.... is that a hint of sarcasm i note in your post? LOL

please for the love of god P-F1 kick robson off of the forum, he is ruining the site with his propaganda every thread or news story you have posted, he has always kicked off about hating hamilton even when the thread hasn't been about HAMILTON. He is ruining things for the good intelligent people using the site.

robson is off his meds again thorneh how else do you explain his being an idiot so much?

again robson is still bitter about the fact that one of the FERRARI team handed McLaren documents about Ferrari, McLaren DIDN'T steal them from him HE handed them to the team. just shut the hell up and keep your biased opinions to yourself you little troll. You complain about people being biased AGAINST Ferrari, when you are doing the exact same FOR Ferrari.

ElvisBeavis....... LOL at your comment...... good put down :D robson i'd give up, no-one gives a damn about your pro-ferrari rantings.

robson I'm gonna say this just once...... SHUT UP and Mr Ecclestone... a horse walks into a bar and the barman says "Why the long face?" That Sir is a joke, what Hammy had to endure, was racism pure and simple and well done Lewis for not letting it get to him.

Chylout..... be nice...... Robson doesn't have a brain for a blood vessel to burst in LOL

F1_Freak_666 Lewis Hamilton was gracious towards Alonso when he won singapore, and he is more gracious then you are. He's the way he is because of people like the few spaniards ruining things for their fellow countryman by being racist towards the guy. The soon er you accept him the better.

robson as many others have told you.... stop and think before posting crap, we all know you hate any driver or people who don't agree with your disillusioned opinion that Ferrari are the only ones who are entitled to race and be champions. You need to face reality that it is A SPORT if Your precious little ferrari team were the only ones to compete it wouldn't be competitive it's the car that is under the driver PLUS talent of the man behind the wheel you moron. At least he dedicated his last race to good causes..... did your pride and joy Schumacher do that on his last race?! NO! so shut up and keep your propaganda to yourself you idiot.

erm watchcam you thinking of the wrong eddie.... Eddie Irvine is the one urging Lewis to move, not Eddie Jordan.

again robson has got his own head so far up his own backside that he starts talking s**t again. It must be very lonely when the only friends you have are the little voices in your head, prompting you to be a racist and calling the British illiterate. If you'd tried forcing your ignorant views on people over here in the UK you'd be thrown into a nice cell with rubber-wallpaper, because you are obviously dillusional. Go and take your medication and come back when you know what you are talking about and aren't so paranoid then maybe, just maybe, people might just be able to take you seriously. Ferrari got the constructors title too bad your precious Massa didn't get the drivers title, Hamilton won the title fair and square, both Ferrari and Massa have accepted that, so why can't you? Your whole attitude towards Hamilton and the fact that he is both BLACK and BRITISH, gives F1 fans a bad name, if you can't accept that then you really shouldn't watch Formula 1, because Hamilton is here to stay.

god you are such a bigot robson...... why don't you crawl back into whatever hole you crawled out of and stay there. A brit won the Drivers Championship and you see conspiracy in it, so by your stupid logic..... Massa shouldn't have won it either because he has a british Race engineer.... get a life or better still.... get a girlfriend.

Robson do you have any friends? and i mean Real friend not the ones that obviously live in your little mind.

oh for gods sake Robson....... if all you can do is badmouth people for congratulating hamilton for winning the DRIVERS title, then you needa take your meds again you are just bitter because your precious Massa didn't get the drivers title. Sheesh i wonder if you have any friends at all the way you have a go at people who have an opinion that doesn't match yours.

Yea Well done Lewis but dayum did you have to give me a near heart-attack?! i'm only 29yrs old LOL

Baron, if you can't say anything intelligent then shut up, just because He won the world title does not make it phoney win, Glock had the wrong tires on the cars pure and simple.

I hope DC raised lots of money for his chosen charity not many other drivers i know of would do that in the final race, ironic that the team he first raced in F1 with were unfortunately the cars involved in his first corner incident. I for one salute you DC for your sportsmanship.

There you go again robson seeing conspiracy in the Drivers title being won by hamilton, Glock was on the wrong tires and he took a risk and it backfired. Get used to it.

kimi2008, have you forgotten to take your anti-paranoia meds? Glock took a gamble and lost....get over it.... Ferrari has the constructors championship..... and i agree Massa was fair in defeat, would Schumacher have been so gracious?

kimi2008, have you forgotten to take your anti-paranoia meds? Glock took a gamble and lost....get over it.... Ferrari has the constructors championship..... and i agree Massa was fair in defeat, would Schumacher have been so gracious?

for all the cry-baby Ferrari fans out there saying that Hammy doesn't deserve the championship.... get a life...... You won the constructors championship....... so what if it isn't a ferrari driver who took the world title all Lewis needed to do was get 5th place or higher and he did just that.

pbarreiro what you need to remember is it's not just the driver, but the car too and tyres.

WTG Lewis a deserving World Champion if ever I saw one hope there are more World Titles to come from you.

oh for gods sake shut up robson, you hate hamilton we all get that..... but don't start on the commentators for having an opinion on the guy. If i were you i'd start taking your meds then you might not get so paranoid.

to naranjo not all brits think the Spanish are racist.... i said elsewhere that the FIA should pull the F1 races out of Spain then the racist few might just feel humiliated when they realise that they have ruined things for their fellow countrymen.

oh btw senna1.... if Coulthard was always such a mid-pack racer then how come he had 4 3rd places in his first 7yrs, thats 3rd place in the driver championships. it's only been the last few years he's been out of the top 10 and that's been usually a result of the car under him, and not the driver. He finished 2nd in 2001, and it was only shortly after that he dropped down the field, but then that was when McLaren had a down year in terms of performance, and then the guy joined Red Bull.... so again i ask how does that make him a mid-pack racer throughout his career?

Senna1 how many drivers do you know that will actually raise money for charity on their last race huh?

as I recall Cohen was accused by people of being racist because he was a middle-class Jew playing a working class black guy or something like that.

ah the thing is...... Heikki isn't THAT competitive to start with, so sorry, maybe he should try harder.

god rdutari you are an idiot.

I think the Spanish motorsport people should be fined or worse punished by having ALL F1 Grand Prix removed from the calender then hopefully these racist few will be ashamed enough to realise that they've ruined things for the rest of the sensible fans.

Alonso!! you are nothing but a spoilt little brat, who gets upset when he doesn't get his own way, i'm surprised someone hasn't punched you in the face to see if they can knock some maturity and sense into you.

oh for gods sake ROBSON, i'd love to see how much you donate to charity i mean Spinal cord research is a damn worthy cause so shut up or put up.

The FIA should punish the Spaniards, by removing them from the F1 calender, make the racist twerps feel crap and hopefully they will learn their lesson when people won't have anything to do with them because the attitudes cost them a world class motor race

Well played DC, i hope you raise lots of money for the charity

well said Jody, at last someone is talking sense.

aye i think the Doctor would make a good F1 driver, and i mean Damon Hill made a successful transition from 2 wheels to 4, so good luck to the Doc.

i stand corrected with Eddie Jordan i thought he was Northern Irish not Republic of ireland, that was a genuine mistake but that does NOT make me less of an F1 fan, and Eddie Jordan is more then qualified to commentate on F1 because he was a TEAM owner and racer as well. Plus he is a fair guy too, i'm sorry but if there was an italian commentator they would be biased towards Ferrari like robson is, Jordan is just the outspoken sort we need for F1 commentary in the UK.

sheesh robson there is a reason for that..... it's the BRITISH BROADCASTING COMPANY and Brundle, Coulthard and Jordan are citizens of GREAT BRITAIN. If you want an Italian commentator move to Italy to watch the F1 coverage.

oh boy robson you made yourself look even stupider by showing how much you love ferrari, by being disappointed that the Force India (powered by ferrari) got taken out by a ferrari, hmmm i wonder..... if the cars involved in those incidents were say i dunno McLaren or even a Honda, would you feel the same way? Probably not, but i do agree with the others..... stop being an ass, just because you don't like Hamilton, think of better examples to prove your point instead of making yourself look like a bonehead in the process, or are you in the pay of Ferrari?

PeteFromBristol..... please tell me you are yanking everyones chain....... Graham Norton and Jonathon Ross are 2 of the biggest wastes of Taxpayer money going, the whole idea is to GAIN viewers not lose them with those 2.

make yer damn mind up Flav, one minute you think Hammy will bugger it up, the next you are saying he can win....

erm DarkDefender...... the FIA are pissed at the story that Brundle wrote in the SUNDAY TIMES, nothing about him writing about spygate in the Daily Mail

okay first off Redfive55 no doubt ITV lost the rights to show F1 because of the crappy coverage they gave, it was annoying with the constant ad-breaks and sydjed..... you in my opinion have your head so far up your own backside that it no wonder you are talking crap.

the poor sod has not really had the luck , he A) had a hot rookie partnering him, and B) he had unfortunate incidents that got him punished therefore not enabling him to gain points Japan springs instantly to mind.

Gotta say this is the first time i've of of governing bodies being cry-babies, rather then the drivers LOL!!

sheesh the guy makes a valid point, and if the evidence this year is anything to go by too, with the stewards, then well done BEEB you have done the right thing, make the FIA squirm in their shoes and keep up the good work with pointing out the errors of their ways.

well i think saving money would be good..... but the FIA needs to ditch the situation that they had in Belgium where hammy got wrongly punished so they rightly appealed, spending lots of money on the case..... only for the money-grabbers at the FIA to tell them that it was unappealable.

watchcam "Their F1 car is more reliable than the road cars they make. " and better-looking too LOL!

so wolfie your answer is that because Ferrari were struggling is because McLaren and Hammy were cheating...... sheesh i thought conspiracy nuts were an urban myth..... let me guess you think Hammy was the man behind the grassy knoll in Dallas when Kennedy was shot....

i bet someone forgot to put 6th gear in the gearbox lol

uhm BuggyRider, i think you'll find Indy and champcars are single seaters in the US and pretty darned popular.

robson, just because you do not like Hammy, it doesn't mean he's a less deserving winner, his tactics make him a worthy winner if anything, he has made the sport worth watching again, i'm sorry if you can't handle but then that is just tough.

hussainahm, i think Hammy will get a new one anyway, because i thought Shanghai was run for the second time. So automatically a new engine as a result.

Actually i'm surprised Ferrari didn't complain about Hammy not letting Massa past to win the race LOL

i think the question is.... will he FIT in an F1 car let alone hs he driven one.. lol

rajeshK shut up why do people like you always assume a story like this is about Lewis Hamilton, i think you'll find that what Blundell is refering to, is the Bourdais incident.

well said chickv, Ferrari have made the biggest cock-ups this year as a TEAM, so before anyone responds and says, i'm anti-ferrari i'm stating facts, Massa released in the path of Sutil twice, Kimi, took out his own pit man, ditto Massa. Hammy has shown more balls in his driving style then anyone else, again i bring up his last year in GP2, where he overtook, 2 cars on a bend by driving between the 2, now how many drivers can you say have done that? All the people who say that Hamilton is dangerous, then it appears you'd like the cars to go around in a nice little parade, and when they pit they must look left, then right and then left again, and check their mirrors before leaving the pit lane, to be safe. Puh-lease i'd love to see you lot in an F1 car.

I think this'll be the chance for teams to be able to JOIN the F1 championship LIKE ProDrive, if they are still allowed to join up.

robson you have no idea what you are talking about, if anyone is gonna take anyone out it'll be Alonso taking out hamilton to aid massa not the other way round.

Is that the smell of humble pie in the air coming from Massa? oh wait no if it was he'd be respecting Bourdais as well.... oh well here's hoping.....

i think the reason Hammy botched last year, was the whole spygate thing, that added pressure to both the team AND drivers, so i agree STFU Flavio, it's none of your business.

erm pratoscope can you speak English please or at least hire a translator so people can understand what you are saying.

sandip... shut up, if anyone is a sore loser Alonso is, if his behavior is anything to go by last year. So think before you accuse others of ass-kissing. If Lewis was such a sore loser he'd have taken the bait by Alonso, which considering the animosity last year between the 2 of them, Lewis is the bigger man.

He added: "You can take whatever you want from my comment but it is very simple."...... okay you are a cheating bastard Alonso who is still bitter at being outdriven by Hammy last, get over it you big baby and stop throwing your toys out of your pram.

This is getting ridiculous Massa left the track and crossed the pit line and the stewards question WEBBER?! When they decided to investigate the red car someone must've thought they meant the RED BULL not Ferrari...... yea right. Time these people stopped brown-nosing Ferrari and get back to putting F1 back on the road to recovery. and making it FAIR, by following the rules instead of punishing someone like Bourdais and investigating Webber for being in the RIGHT, when in fact you should be investigating Massa and Ferrari as a whole, for their questionable tactics. But the way things are now i think there would be more chance of the next pope being jewish then Ferrari being investigated and getting punished.... no offense meant to any jewish people who are reading this.

well done Hammy, you are proving yourself the bigger man. Keep it up.

that was an unfortunate typo that i didn't see it until it was sent and apology accepted and doofus was meant as a joke so no offence meant.

DarkDefender has a very good point, if a car, road or race, gets wrong-footed by rain or wet asphalt and goes into an aquaplane, it's very hard to control then 9 time out of ten no matter how good a driver you are, you'll be fighting a losing battle, and the car would spin. so in the case of Monaco i have to agree no punishment needed for Kimi.

and if you'd read my comment i wasn't attacking you you doofus, i was attacking the fact that Massa was blaming Bourdais for his own mistake rather then admiting it.

oh dear Alonso is still pissed after last year at McLaren where he was constantly outpaced by Hammy, and the fact he didn't get the 3rd WC, that' he'll do anything to prevent Hammy winning the title, i'm sorry but that to me just Alonso being childish and unsportsman like

robson: are you refering to Mark Blundell when you are asking what he knows about F1? , if so then he knows a helluva lot more then you think, you must be in diapers still if you have never seen him race, because he is a top class driver who also raced an MG LMP at the Le Mans 24hrs, so in that respect he knows what he is talking about.

now m130efe, Hamilton admitted he made a cock-up on the first corner, he's one of the few driver who ADMIT to making a mistake, I've not seen Massa or Kimi or even Schumacher or Alonso, admit to a mistake, when they KNOW they were the ones at fault, Massa hit Bourdais through his own stupidity, and rather then take it on the chin and admit it was his cock-up he blames the guy who he hit for being in the right, the guy is a sore loser who blames others for his mistakes more often then not.

Lollypopman: I believe the schumacher incident you are refering to was a pointless thing, in the end because he was nowhere in the running for the title.

Elvis beavis the race you are refering to where Kimi ran his own pitman down was also Valencia.

piojitolindo, how can you say Hammy doesn't have a brain, he is A: pretty damn intelligent, and B: he has something which in the real world is called balls, which is something you need for motor-racing.

It seems to me that it's one rule for Ferrari, a differant rule for the rest of the field as far as the stewards are concerned, and AGAIN the decision was made POST race. Max Mosley is right about F1 needing to lose money, well there's your answer, keep up the sham of these idiot stewards finding favor for Ferrari, even when they are in the wrong, and you'll lose viewers and spectators, therefore saving money.

Scuderia stop talking out of your ass, this story has nothing to do with McLaren so shut up and read the story before commenting, this is about Bourdais being punished for MASSA'S recklessness.

Hekki_Fan the stewards (or as my dad calls them the STUPIDS), would have prolly told Bourdais to check both his mirrors, look left, then right then left again before pulling out onto the track LOL.

Okay for all those Ferrari people who think Massa was right, think back to a while back when drivers were punished for coming out of the pits and crossing the white line before the end of the pit lane, as per the rules and pay attention to what Mr Whiting said too, that Bourdais had the right of way as he was coming out of the pits, IF Bourdais had cut the white line then fair enough he deserved to be punished but as it is, he was on the right line and therefore had position, but Massa threw a tantrum and blames the poor bastard for HIS (Massa) mistake, it I personally think that, he is still p***ed after Singapore, and wants to resort to any tactics so he can get his own way and win.

Sounds like Massa needs to go to specsavers...... what i saw on the news too was him being reckless, Bourdais was in the right, he never crossed the white line at the exit of the pits, he had the right line, and Massa was a bonehead for doing what he did, and he should admit blame, at least if Hamilton is wrong he admits it and doesn't try to chuck the blame onto someone else.

ronniepilgrim, you come across as having your head so far up your own backside it's no wonder you talking so much crap. Okay so Hammy, takes risks when he doesn't need to, but that doesn't mean that the whole world is biased to the guy, but i do agree with kukka that the FIA appears to show bias to Ferrari.

it's not Bernie who hires the stewards, it's the FIA, i didn't see the race but that sounds like it's taking the p*** first Hammy in Belgium, and now THIS, so Massa should've been punished but as they are the pets of the FIA we know it's never gonna happen.

This is good for F1 IMHO, it'll even out the field a little bit, when you consider the finances the big player's have for R&D the minnows wouldn't a get a look-in unless it was a track like Monte Carlo which has in the past thrown up surprises..

uhm Ssharky..... Mark Blundell IS English so why should he take English lessons?

well F1Nut that's offensive, the guy is Scottish so he speaks with his native accent.

i do agree that F1 is getting expensive, i mean Ferrari have said that other teams are looking at the traffic light system, but i dun see how smaller teams are gonna afford it, at the moment i see Force India being a goner in the not to distant future.

there's no need to be a jackass brucetravis... everyone is making valid points as is Bernie, Ferrari complained about Valencia, and Singapore, what happened at both the races? 2 pit members got injured because of that stupid traffic light system, and they are trying to blame the tracks for it, instead of taking the blame squarely on the chin.

I think Bernie has hit the nail right on the head good to see someone standing up to the twerps at Ferrari. They have only got themselves to blame, yet they feel the need to blame the track and other people, for their cock-ups. I expect to see them at Japan wearing Red noses and facepaint, and oversized shoes stumbling out of a tiny car! LOL

Nakajima has improved a lot since that boo-boo when he ran over his pit-crew last year.

IanChde i think you prolly would needa pay for his pint....... i think chances are the guy'll be out of a job LOL!!

Franco_Baracca did you not notice that he was also complaining about Valencia too, another race Ferrari made a pigs-ear out of, first of all releasing Massa into the path of Sutil, then Raikonnen wiping out his pit-crew, then promptly busting his engine later on. I'm not anti-Ferrari, but the fact that the guy seems to be upset about 2 races that his team buggered up, seems to me to be exactly as people have said, sour grapes. Seems to me a sore loser trying to get his own way.

The thing that peeves me about the shutting of the pitlane during safety car useage is that teams who are say running a 2 stopper run the risk of running out of fuel before one of their stops as was shown with Kubica and Nico Rosberg this weekend, and the teams had no choice BUT to make the stop knowing that they'd get the 10sec stop and go penalty, so all i can say is bad luck for Kubica (who i think has been a brilliant driver even after that bad smash in Canada last year) and well done Rosberg for managing to get enough of a gap between him and the 2nd placed driver to be able to pull into the pits take his 10 sec stop and go and manage to get out in the top 5 to eventually finish 2nd.

or it could be the same way as the IRL (indy racing league), universal chassis and different engines. So at least the smaller teams have an inkling of a chance and then mebbe Prodrive'll be able to enter too as it is i'm sorry but it's gettin' too damn expensive for the smaller teams and if we ain't careful it'll only be like Ferrari (the FIA's pet team :P) McLaren, Renault and maybe just, BMW, Toyota and Honda, but the smaller teams like Force India, Torro Rosso (well it's new owners at least, because i heard a rumour it was being put up for sale because of something about not having junior teams) will end up folding.

all i have to say about this is BOOHOO! i'm sorry but I think he's just bitter because Massa's pit crew f***ed up his race with that silly traffics light system, and then Raikkonen crashed out like 4-5 laps before the end of the race, therefore not beating McLaren. Seems to me he's a sore loser.

the way i see it is all F1 cars should be like GP2 and F3 all made by the same manufacturer (lola i think it is) with the same engine, and the same tyres like they have this year, and base it on talent instead of the big teams like McLaren and the FIA pet Team Ferrari who have vast amounts of mullah (money) to plough into R&D i mean look what happened to Super Aguri this year, and take Prodrive too, they were granted entry on the grid by the FIA for the 2008 season but had to pull out before they could even start, because there was a legal challenge against the use of Customer cars. Now if everyone was driving the same car then there might just be a bit more variety in winners and more overtaking.

nuno, i was refering to AFTER he left Renault the first time around you twit.

what i am saying DarkDefender is nothing to with the fact i have praise for Hamilton, but the fact that Alonso (or Eyebrows as Jeremy Clarkson calls him) seems to not aid in the developement of the car and gets stroppy because he doesn't have a winning set of wheels underneath him.

billatron give the venue a chance to mature, it is after all a new track and every new thing has it's teething problems. Though I must in this instance agree with Sir Frank, I was amazed with the spectacle that is Singapore, especially the sparks from the cars and the fact you never know what'll happen in a floodlit situation, as we saw KR getting wrong-footed towards the end of the race. The I think Bernie would be wrong to try and Make Oz and Japan night races, because it'd take away the amazement and uniqueness of the Marina Bay Circuit

There Alonso goes again, he doesn't have a strong car under him and throws his toys from the pram again, sheesh at least Schumacher helped MAKE the Ferrari car a winning one by sticking around.

And has anyone noticed how it's been the same 2 drivers Poor Massa has been released both times in front of Sutil, ya ever get the feeling someone on the Ferrari crew doesn't like Sutil?

well there were other teams waiting to see how the system worked out before giving it a go, so now i think there will be an extra bloke(or blokette gotta be PC nowadays LOL)with a lollipop.

pvramesh, btw Massa had another incident in Valencia where he was released infront of Sutil then and of KR wiping out his own pit guy in the same race, methinks Ferrari needs a rethink about the pit stratagy.

I had to laugh when the cock-up screwed Massa's race i seriously think the Maranello boys want to chuck the light-lollipop thingy in the nearest trash-can because it has caused no end of grief and as a result Massa lost out and the irony is..... i think someone on the pit-crew hates Sutil because this was the 2nd time Massa was released in the path of Adrian Sutil because of the "traffic light" system lollipop

antbow are you sure you are refering to Sato and not The OTHER Japanese driver who's with Williams?

F1_Freak_666 I'd love to see you in an F1 car racing (which is what Hammy does) and drive the car and not takes risks..... you'd never last one season.

TheSchum, what you said about Hamilton was offensive, and judging by your screen name i'm assuming you are a fan of Schumacher, who IMHO was the biggest cheater going.

Heads seriously need to roll at the FIA, if a member of government here did anything like the way the FIA is handling the BS way that Hammy is getting treated, then people would demand the member be removed, likewise, if the FIA continues this BS the one guy that has made F1 worth watching again will more then likely walk away, along with thousands of BRITISH F1 fans, and then there'd. The way I see it, the FIA is how would people say it nowadays? it's either NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE, or IMHO Institutionally Racist

b19uks, Hammy is a good driver, PERIOD, it seems other drivers are jealous because he is brave more then anything, how many drivers do you know that would chance overtaking 2 cars on a corner by driveing between them as he did in his last year of GP2?

Spoken like a true politician Max.

ronniepilgrim35 your comments are stupid in regards to Hamilton talking so much, he was winning races in GP2 hell he won the 2006 GP2 series, and in regards to his driving, he is a DAMN good driver how many F1 drivers have you known to over take 2 cars on a corner by driving BETWEEN them? he has got what is known as balls, something i fear you come across as not having.

Ferrari get away with way too much BS and correct me if i'm wrong but weren't Ferrari one of the teams who DIDN'T want to break away from F1 because of costs? it's funny, Hammy gets punished for wrongdoing, which IMHO is a load of BS because he gave the position back, and Timo glock gets punished too for overtaking on a yellow flag, yet KR gets off scot-free for the exact same thing, who gives a toss that KR crashed after doing that, he still should be punished for it. The FIA brought in rule changes to make the sport more competitive, yet when you get a great racer like Hammy he gets dealt a raw deal, this is the same FIA that refused the chicane for Indy a couple of years ago because the Michelin had brought the wrong tyres and resulted in a few cars running on 'em to crash, leaving only Bridgestone runners Ferrari (surprise surprise) and a couple of the smaller teams to run thus making it a shambles.

I have a feeling that F1 will go down the crapper soon if the FIA dun buck their ideas up, at the moment it's more like f**k their ideas up.

Well i'm sorry if Charlie Whiting as Race Director is so important how come it's the stewards who make the punishment decisions instead of checking with the guy beforehand like Ron Dennis did.

James1 and what you fail to realise is the guy held back and let KR pass him immediatly afterwards, and the RACE CONTROL, twice said there was nothing wrong with what he did, why don't you read what else has been said before making these sorts of comments.

There was a list of things in the Daily Mail today, called Funny how things never go against Ferrari, okay the first one isn't Ferrari but Schumacher (anyone ever noticed how that is german for Cobblers?!) where he took out Damon Hill in Adelaide in 1994 but wasn't dealt with and he won the first championship as a result, he repeated it 3yrs later, now with Ferrari, and tried to take out Villneuve at Jerez for the Europea GP but it backfires he gets excluded from the Championship but because he had no chance anyway of winning the title his points already gained beforehand were allowed to be kept. Move forward to 1999 and Sepang, Malaysia, Schumacher and Irvine were disqualified for using illegal barge boards (i remember this when it happened) but Ferrari appealed and it was controversially overturned. Now 2006 at Monza Fernando Alonso in a title fight with Schumacher got handed a Grid penalty for supposedly blocking Massa in qualifying. It's about time someone did something about the Ferrari people, it is getting beyond a joke when they break the rules and constantly get away with it. as far as i am concerned Hammy deserves to win because he is the more skilful driver, and if Ferrari or the FIA can't take then TS they shouldn't take it out on the guy for making F1 more worthwhile to watch.

well i agree with all the comments but i can see one problem with using former F1 racers........ a lot of them are elsewhere like A1GP and Nascar etc, etc, so any form of racing driver should be used. seasoned professionals from all forms of motor-sport.

uhm Buffy Alonso did nothing BUT moan last year, because he was constantly outpaced by Hammy, and behaved like a child throwing his toys out of his buggy.

Hammy is the main reason i started to watch F1 again it seems the FIA and co fail to realise he has got genuine talent, i mean that race in GP2 where he overtook 2 cars around the corner of a race by going in BETWEEN the 2 of 'em, was pure class, though last year i kind gave up because of Alonso behaving like a baby throwing his toys out of his buggy because he was constantly being out paced by lewis, come on FIA this is the 21st century, the sooner you treat the guy fairly the sooner i will gladly watch F1 every race.

that was last year, this is now, it was fair enough McLaren getting fined last year over the Spygate incident, Ferrari are getting away with too many things now, like Massa nearly hitting Sutil in the pit lane at Valencia, now if a McLaren driver did that what's the betting they'd be fined for it.

i wonder how much the back-hander is that Ferrari are paying the FIA, they wanna watch where they throw their toys, cuz one of these days, there will some-one who will be honest and not take any backhanders from 'em, well that is if there is bribary going around.....

I saw the race and Lewis was right in what he did, he gained a place having been forced to cut the corner and he IMMEDIATELY let Raikonnen pass him, and he legitimately passed him on the straight as he had given up his gained place before trying again. i personally think that this is Ferrari complaining after Raikonnen crashed, and i agree with the comments on how funny it is that Hamilton gets punished unfairly IMHO, yet Ferrari get off scot-free in Valencia for unsafe driving in the pit lane, though i had to laugh at that race...... i hope Ron Dennis and co at McLaren WIN the appeal. Lewis deserves the win, because he was the better driver in the rain on hard-tyres, and Ferrari deserve to have their noses rubbed in it!