actually you stopped about 5 years too late

so what if todt is close to ferrari. about time we had somebody at the FIA who likes ferrari after all these years of anti ferrari bias

why would he want to go there next year? without honda & virgin money they will be very mid field or worse. plus they may need to put a lot of resourses into 2009 & not be fully ready for 2010

for the past decade, except for this year, ferrari have always managed to perform well during the year with sufficient resources to prepare a strong car for the following year. they should be able to do the same this time.

big problem for brawn is that not only are red bull quicker but other teams like ferrari are getting between them so cutting their lead down at a faster rate. rem also that button has been incredibly lucky/reliable so statistically ready for a DNF. button could easily be overhauled in 3-4 races. even though red bull policy of no team orders may be commendable, if they want to win, they must soon get behind one driver.

hang on batfuds- i'm aussie & i said he was lucky to win this one. how can that be interpreted as crass nationalist rubbish? he's a journeyman in a good car that happens to be reliable at the moment. that is a fair assessment compared with how most poms carry on when hamilton or button win. sorry i forgot-hamilton doesn't win any more.

he was lucky to win that one but it still doesn't make up for the 4 or 5 he should have won by now. F1 is a cruel game & he knows that better than most.

he did similar last year, so what do you expect?

forget ferrari or red bull, so its either brawn or stay put

he was just frustrated. big deal-get over it. if he wasn't upset there would be something wrong.

long time between drinks for an australian to win, but if ferrari cant win it is better to be webber-congratualtions. at least we came a well deserved third

yeah blackdog-we australians dont learn arithmetic so how is webber expected to work out that button can lose the championship? he just knows he's in front & they need to catch him.

its still meaningless because ferrari & others wont race next year unless their conditons are met. so why bother publishing anything?

the lineup is going to look fairly stupid when brabham & lotus dont allow their names to be used & all the manufacturers are gone. F3 will have more appeal but i wont be watching that either. i imagine brawn will win a meaningless competition, but who cares? i'll be waiting for the breakaway series.

i hope F1 fans around the world vote with their feet & leave F1 in the stinking mess it is in until mosley goes.

its always great to do a few laps on the friday even if its only in the hire car. however without ferrari from next year this will be my last.

as usual i'm heading off for the best race of the year to take up position at my usual seat on the back row of the main grandstand-that way you can see the action in front as well as when they come up the start finish straight behind. without ferrari this will be my last year.

instead of focussing on cost cutting by reducing what teams spend they should be looking at the obscene slice that bernie etc take from the teams. the teams should be sharing a much larger slice of the pie based on their performances to an agreed formula. that's why a breakaway series is inevitable.

couldn't agree more & this is from someone who normally doesn't agree with this guy. & for the idiots who say shareholders might question the amounts spent on F1-if you dont like what is spent then sell your shares

this should be fun to watch (NOT). imagine litespeed & not ferrari. which would the fans around the world rather be watching?

ferrari need to show a but of dignity & simply dont sign up to 2010 & start their own series & i'm certain the big names will follow

to idiotfrombristol, currently a 430 F1 Spider & i've rarely had a problem with the 4 ferrari's i've owned since 1978. they can be driven hard but need regular service. however i've had 2 MBs in that time -lots of trouble

bernie & max may as well give in because i'm certain a team as revered & prestigous as ferrari would not change their mind & crawl back to the FIA under the current terms proposed. also bernie has too much to lose financially to allow ferrari to leave but since max wont lose personally the only solution is to get rid of max. surely with an election coming up soon, just because he stands why should that ensure he gets elected?

good on you piero-stick to your guns as your father would have. it is part of your heritage. however i would not continue to buy ferrari road cars if they did not race at the highest level

agreed CooperS. i'm sure luca has not made this threat without already knowing his next move & i suspect he has agreement from renault etc to go where they go to

exactly what i have been saying for years. so run F1 as it used to be with less rules & more innovation allowed 7 make ferrari happy.

good on you renault & flavio. hope you have the guts to carry out your threat. things will be better in the long run.

if you want common sense to prevail get rid of mosley & the crazy rules that will destroy F1. bernie is just as guilty with his "winner takes all" scoring for next year-that must go as well. he is right on one thing though- F1 IS FERRARI. may not be for much longer though

this is a big opportunity for the future of F1 if ferrari has the guts to carry out their threat. if any other team did this the world would say "so what" but here we are dealing with the most iconic brand in the world & without them nobody will be watching, so F1 will wither & die. so FIA have no choice but to surrender. if they formed their own series then all the revenues can flow back to the teams, so there will be more teams, also making profits & with bigger budgets so employing more people. we could get to the stage like years ago when only the fastest 22-24 cars qualified to race.

what about a driver upgrade as well?

the papers have got it wrong inferring the FIA have equal power in this argument. ferrari hold all the aces because they have the power to pull the other major teams out of F1 & form their own series. when bernie sees his audience largely disappear they have no choice but to lure ferrari back. if they have any doubt about ferrari's pull ask the people that DONT follow F1 & the only F1 competitor they can name is ferrari

well even i would agree that mclaren are so bad the only way is up from that position

the great news is that if ferrari leave & all the other big teams go with them they can start a new series to include all the good circuits like max & bernie removed from F1. eg canada, US, austria & imola. they can even have silverstone back & forget about donnington (if the fans want it). there must be a maximum of one race in spain but possibly include portugal. if i was in charge i would remove australia because very few down here are interested & i doubt many fans would miss some of the asian/middle eastern races where the locals have no real interest. there will be plenty of data around as to where it is popular & races should go there. for instance while there are 2 drivers from finland there must be a race there (but possibly cant call it a GP)

just throw a few hay bales around london & have the race there until donnington is finished. the traffic wont be much worse than now so nobody will notice the difference.

note in this economic climate they are the most profitable car manufacturer in the world. this is natural since they make the best, most exciting road cars in the world & the most revered name in motoring & motor racing. it is a great move to leave F1 & all the other big names will follow - this is what bernie & max deserve. looks like brawn, williams & force india will be running on their own with nobody watching. ok there maybe a few new unknowns like USGP, but who cares? that should be fun for a year or 2 before the FIA crawl back to ferrari.

great decision. when you are the most important & revered team in the history of motorsport you can afford to make these statements & everyone will snap to attention

kimi is right but they will start winning soon this season. as james allen said they are by far the most improved team since melb. this actually proves they have very good people but got caught out by the diffuser debacle. just because brawn got away with it doesn't mean it was the correct decision-they just got very lucky. they also started behind because they invested so much time winning the 08 constructors title whereas honda (under brawn) gave up after a few races because they were so hopeless.

i hope they pull out & start their own championship & all the major teams will follow. they are not performing up to their incredibly high standards this year but the important people in F1 know that unless they are competing against a benchmark (ferrari) then winning is meaningless. they remain the biggest drawcard in any form of motorsport.

this is the same guy that claimed he might be winning at silverstone with lots of fast corners? it has no chance on any circuit in its current configuration & there will be no major upgrades by monaco

those are only some of the stupid ideas for next year. fast forward to this time 2010 & with the "winner take all rule" there is no need for any driver to even turn up & try because no-one is likely to win 4 races so they may as well declare button the champion. this rule alone will destroy F1 without the others. the teams must form a breakaway series.

that is the attitude that has made them the most successful team of all time. look at what they did in 07 if you need a recent example all without brawn & essentially with the same team they have now.

ferrari have already bounced a long way back & if they keep that up they will soon be winning races although possibly too late to win the championship this year

they are the most improved team since melb & will be winning races very soon (except monaco is a lottery). they possibly wont win the championships this year but i suppose they need to give someone else a go occasionally. after all they won 3 out of the past 4 (as soon as they got rid of brawn actually) so certainly have all the right people to come back stronger next year especially if they concentrate on 2010 from now

i bet he wouldn't be saying that if he was in his normal position. it's amazing how perceptions change depending where you are on the pecking order

which year is he talking about? certainly not 2009

dkpioe-it's good to see somebody on this site understands f1. i couldn't say it better myself-i dont know what all the fuss about hamilton is. he got very lucky last year mainly thru some unusual mistakes by ferrari otherwise he wouldn't have even been close.

bannor the difference between mclaren & ferrari at the moment is the latter has a quick car. i can understand why they took the risk to save the car & tyres & it nearly paid off. if it had he would look like a hero because he could have got pole with a lighter car than filipe

first he needs a decent car. trouble is all the good teams wont have him

imagine if it was a "winner takes all" championship like next year. it is very likely that button could holiday in the bahamas for the rest of the year & still be champion because with so many good teams this year it is quite likely no other single driver will win more than 3 races. how absurd would that be? if ever implimented that would destroy F1 even if ferrari decided to stay.

good on you mario. BMW can join the new series which ferrari will start up. i'm sure MB, renault & toyota & possibly volkswagen & porsche will also be on board soon.

i dont know why luca bothers. he runs the biggest drawcard in F1 so he should quit FOTA & start a new series for ferrari & watch all the other big teams follow because they are the benchmark so a victory without beating a ferrari is a hollow meaningless victory.

if anybody doubts the truth of this they have never been to an F1 race. there are more ferrari supporters in the grand stands than all the others put together. of course at monza it's almost completely red.

so the established names in the sport are saying exactly what i am saying. ferrari is the biggest name in F1 so without them there is no longer F1. actually ferrari is the biggest name -full stop. the only way to prove it to doubters is for ferrari to pull out & start their own series. i bet all the others would follow & bernie will be left with no-one. just do it, i say.

clearly downgrading the car so that if he does well he can gloat that he is the greatest driver of all time. an old tactic that we are all a wake up to by now.

with 13 races left i have no doubt ferrari will be back on top before the season is finished. look at the rate kimi caught up in only 2 races in 07.

you show 'em heikki. otherwise you will soon be shown the door

if the hat fits -wear it. yeah but what if it doesn't?-then just win races. kimi will win again very soon

sorry if i was misunderstood. i would only support brands hatch if tilke could come in and revamp it with all the magic only he can achieve. let him loose on donington & gillett may get somewhere

just pay you back rent gillett & get back on your excavator & keep working day & night till its finished. why do i make it so simple? maybe bernie can come up there & help out running errands

they cant be serious. it is almost universally hated. surely FOTA must rebel. if it was the rule this year button would be effective champion already & others would start preparing for next year. it will destroy F1

he might be the new lauda-better in F1 than the lower categories

i think the other 19 drivers would say the same thing so why pick him out? unless you are optimistic you should give up

there is always some idiot that gets sucked in by a silly comment. in fact i met seb in melb at an autograph signing session & he was a perfect gentleman (like all french people)

great headline-couldn't have written a better one myself. maybe i could get a job as mclaren's PR spokesperson

sounds like it's on its last legs if you read between the lines. this latest move will only delay the inevitable. the silverstone guys had better start negotiating with bernie or maybe brands hatch could throw their hat into the ring- that's a better alternative anyway.

i would say ditch heidfield & keep KERS would be a smarter move but you must know best!!!!!!!!!

i dont even drive for STR & I thought the season began in australia. in fact i saw you there at the circuit-have you forgotten already? i was the guy you refused to give an autograph to or is that normal for you?

if gillett spent less time telling the press every few hours that his track will be ready on time & more time digging (or whatever he's meant to be doing up there), he may have a better chance of finishing

i agree chasto. get rid of monza & you may as well throw out spa & monaco while you're on the job. that will destroy current F1 almost as quickly as if ferrari walks. however wherever ferrari goes that is where new F1 will end up in few years & back racing on the great circuits of the world. at least that way F1 will have got rid of cheating, stupid rules, bernie, max & hamilton.

so it seems haug agrees with me that mclaren have not made such big advances after all. they were slow in testing so they should be an embarrassment in the upcoming race-cant wait

looks like i am right after all-even though silverstone doesn't deserve a GP (or britain for that matter) while hamilton & mclaren are allowed on the grid-they bring F1 into disrepute

obviously some of you PF1 readers cant read. ferrari is the most REVERED brand in the world-end of argument. of course others like coke are better known for all the wrong reasons. as for MB & BMW -they are probably better known as well but nothing compares to ferrari & without them in F1 then F1 ceases to exist. that's why bernie is so worried. wherever ferrari goes, all the top teams will follow, so actually for the good of F1 this is the best plan. set up a new F1 without bernie, max & the nonsensical rules

stick to rally driving-you've got a bit more hope than trying to mix it with the big boys of F1

this latest row proves once & for all that the FIA is very much against ferrari & always have been. this is a plot by FIA to rid F1 of ferrari-they are so stupid -they will soon regret it when they lose at least half their audience

thussey-you obviously haven't watched TV in australia. OneHD televises all GPs live so the twilight races happen at a reasonable hour but of course brazil & canada are on about 3am

absolutely correct-they dont deserve it- they were not even entered last year

luca will agree if its capped at 200mil-how can you run an F1 team for less than that? brawn clearly didn't-they had all the honda money spent last year to get where they are

no gillet it's not only the brits who are doubters-there are australians as well. i'll bet you A$100 it wont take place.

idiot bannor -there are 2 championships every year stupid & mclaren have only won one of them out of the past 20. i dont call that a success story. maybe that's why nobody from mclaren turned up to congratulate him.

hope the boss didn't spell the headline-or there is not much chance of being able to build a GP track

suits me in australia. better time to view it-keep up the good work bernie

they are trying to upgrade the car but did they ever consider to upgrade at least one of their drivers? the other one needs a face job

i cannot believe even mosley is that stupid to have made that comment. luca doesn't need to go to his board to ask for the extra money. ferrari is the biggest, most revered brand in the world (for everything -not only cars) so they have sponsors lining up to pay what ever is required to have their logo on the car. if you've got it why not flaunt it-how dare mosley try to clip their wings

no they cant-just wait & see

now you hamilton supporters have seen the true hamilton. i was right after all wasn't i? & this is backed up by the numerous posts.

we have been lead to believe that mclaren have improved through the season because they are now closer to the leaders than they were at testing in barcelona. now they are saying barcelona is one of their bogey tracks. if this is correct they probably haven't improved at all this season relative the the rest.

well at least the mclaren team has the same respect for dennis that i have. amazing how many PF1 readers are sucked into the dennis web & believe he is respectable-not even the ones that know him well have any respect for him

why does he need to worry? he will be british based so he can be certain he will be favoured by the FIA so he would know his real budget will never be investigated. so he gets the best of both worlds. the same cannot be said for ferrari who have no option but to pull out of F1 until sanity returns

another garbage meaningless award. where did they get the idea he was a consistent winner? i think one championship win out of the past 20 makes him a consistent loser. it would have made more sense if they had given the award to luca or todt

i'm glad you caught up on the latest F1 news bernie. i thought the rest of us knew that already although it may well happen in the future

this new rule will destroy F1. hopefully it will only last a few years & then we can get back to real racing. in the meantime i will need to find something else to do

not only is he quicker than either current BMW driver, he is also a lot more marketable, so they have stuffed up big time

kubica if setbacks make you stronger you must feel like mr universe every time you look in a mirror

you are right bernie but remember they are british so you already expected no penalty

if brawn is looking for the best offer maybe MB should buy the team & close them down

its not fair treatment - its is typical FIA british biased treatment as normal

the british bias sickens me. but what do you expect?-nothing ever changes & ferrari battles on against this tide

dont you hate people like fry who ask themselves questions & then answer them? yes i do

imagine how rubens feels after reading what the boss has to say.

sounds like they are saving on lawyers in order to pay the fine. they deserve to be banned for ever & a trillion dollar fine but being british based it sure to be less.

dont you just hate people who ask themselves a question & then answer it like fry does so often? yes i do.

if the double diffuser & rosberg are meant to be so good with the car generally reliable, it is surprising they have not got more points

what a robot. i could have written every word of that. what else would he be likely to say about his bosses?

at least buang & deepwater330 shows signs of intelligence. with the GFC & trillions being fashionable at the moment, mclaren must be slapped with a trillion dollar fine this time to ensure they never cheat again. start saving hamilton-no more fish and chips for you.

cam200cc-you obviously haven't seen him close up at GPs like i have. he's all friendly with the fans when the TV cameras are there but brushes past the fans & treats them like rubbish when they try to take photos or strike up a conversation. off camera he behaves similar to senna did from my experience. of the current drivers i have met massa, webber & vettel are the most unassuming ranking along side my all time favorites for being friendly-stewart & graham hill (yes they are british)

typical of all the probritish brawn supporters-they twist the facts to suit themselves. brawn will soon be over run by ferrari like they managed to do last year when brawn was running honda. how many championships has brawn's (involved) teams won over the past 4 years (ZERO). how many has ferrari won over past 4 years (THREE-& only after they got rid of brawn). i dont think there is any more to say on the subject- the recent record speaks for itself.

hang on a minute. if he hates being photographed at a fish and chip shop or cinema, yet wants to continue because of his fans-isn't that contradictory? its your fans that are photographing you stupid because i certainly am not.

even james allen said kimi was the driver of the GP. naturally i agree with him & things will only get better for him

it will only be fair if they are banned for life but since they are british the usual favoritism will rear its very ugly head

sit back & wait alonso. one day one of the ferrari drivers will retire & they will give you a test drive

all you brawn supporters have very short memories. sure he is doing ok at the moment because he has had more than a year & a huge honda budget to prepare the car. even he has admitted that. however for the final 2 years he was at ferrari they won nothing but as soon as he left they have won 3 out of the past 4 championships. these are the facts & i'm tired of reading the rubbish that is written about brawn. ferrari are struggling at the moment only because of the huge effort in 08 to win the constructors title.

what luca said is perfectly logical & schumi has better things to do than full time commitment. also being a good driver doesn't mean much for a team manager role but he would be good for team spirit

i agree with f1nestkind -this season shows the stupidity of a "winner takes all" system. if that was the case rubens would already be not allowed to try to win at the expense of button & even webber could not challenge vettel for victories under team orders. already teams would have switched off & concentrating on next year. this system must never be contemplated again for F1.

why make excuses before the race is run? the real reason toyota are on pole is because they are running light & hoping for a safety car early on.

dead right kimi. say it how it is.

sounds like he just found out nobody else wants him otherwise he'd be off in a flash. if he's learning all the time when is he going to learn how to be humble like vettel? obviously a slow learner

a bad workman blames his tools

i think the horse has already bolted. maybe they will be allowed to compete in F3 sometime in the future

i've attended most GP circuits around the world (many of them now defunct) & silverstone ranks amongst the worst. why dont you brits come into the 21st century?

he's a double champion so he should know better than most especially about ferrari & remember he wants to drive for them one day-but then so do most of the rest of them including vettel. line up boys

filipe is in a similar situation to this time last year & look what happened. so there is no reason why he cant go even one point further this year & even win the championship if ferrari can reasert themselves quickly, especially when there are so many teams taking points.

i predicted GP would never go to donington & it appears i will be proved right even earlier than expected. who needs a british GP anyway? only the british-nobody else cares. let new ones like korea & india prosper & also they are in better time zones for us.

sensible move but i expect both will use KERS in the race.

i totally agree with that & the best lineup after that would be BMW followed by williams & toyota. the rest have an average driver paired with a journeyman

it will be sooner rather than later

if everything he touches turns to gold how come his team managed to cop the biggest fine in sporting history & only won a single championship out of the past 20 contested? sounds like a wooden spooner to me.

i expect ferrari to do much better at this circuit & it will be less of a lottery with fine weather. after all they were quick at testing including beating toyota who have the diffuser.

ferrari will never give up 09 chase no matter what happens. they are the most successful team ever in F1, a record that is unlikely to be broken. of course they can have some less successful years but they are still the greatest & that can never be disputed. they would never throw in the towel like honda did last year-they have too much integrity & fans for that.

so much for the interim diffuser-useless. hamilton says he didn't have any downforce-no wonder his mechanics are not pleased with his antics

forget the name of the car but vettel is a class act that hamilton should try to emulate, but i doubt if that is possible. he behaves in a respectable manner like both ferrari drivers.

well said filipe. you would have easily made third if not for the electrical fault. just a bit more luck & the results will come especially after the updates

they are not too far away as filipe showed in china-up to 3rd in the rain with hamilton spinning all over the place. they will be unbeatable with new aero package but they must improve their reliability which they are famed for.

not surprising & ferrari would have been further up had kimi used new tyres & a lighter fuel load

beyond the first 10 places the weights are meaningless so why are they printed here?

that statement by briatore wont make piquet feel too secure since it is now clear briatore was trying to replace him. whilst button is nothing special he is better than piquet.

if ferrari have a problem then maybe they need new blood to inject fresh ideas. since dave ryan is non britsh (from NZ) & he will be sitting around doing nothing, maybe he should join the scuderia

i would say they are sandbagging. good tactic filipe

first & probably last time i have ever agreed with anything hamilton said, i spite of fact that mcliars said he would not talk in shanghai. only proves they have an appropriate new name for team

he just needs to focus on picking up some points until revised car is ready. if the FIA was not so anti non british then ferrari would not be forced into a redesign.

truth hurts sometimes. while piquet is a journeyman like button & barrichello, alonso is a much quicker driver than any of those. however best for flavio to keep his mouth shut

well he's british so what do you expect? problem is brawn was partly responsible for most of them or at least knew all the details

thank god. if i can trust that as fact i can turn the sound back on the TV for the next GP with confidence.

well you're not doing a good job so why are you still there? the longer you stay to better it is for ferrari. at least dennis was passionate about F1 no matter how misdirected that was.

renault are european based so their diffuser was deemed illegal last year but FIA says its ok for a british team to have a similar diffuser this year. why is anybody surprised on only continues the theme?

its hard to get on an equal footing when the controlling body is so clearly anti ferrari & always have been. the worst example was in 07 when they threw out mcliars for again cheating but allowed their drivers to retain their points

at least trulli is honest & respected unlike mcliars & hamilton who are the swill of F1 & must be stamped out.

i'm sure the top teams have been working on a new diffuser for a long time in case it was made legal. after all ferrari know how biased the FIA are against them, so they would have known the likely outcome. this only confirms a continuation of that bias. imagine if ferrari had come up with that idea (like they did with flexible floor), it would have been banned immediately.

surely a double diffuser would now be part of this aero package update????????? if others have cheated to rules % got away with it the most honorable team in F1 must now join in.

its not a huge surprise that yet again the FIA support anything predominately british based. the fact that the diffuser does not comply with the rules is irrelevant

it will be particularly tough if the FIA ban the illegal diffuser & they need to run with something vaguely legal. then things will get back to normal with button in the midfield

if f1 wants a level playing field why did they let that crazy designer (Tilke) loose who has produced a lot of new tracks with hills & valleys in them? have they lost the plot or is it just me?

yes domformula1-you are right. i had travelled 1/2 way round the world in '84 to see that monaco race & was furious like all the rest the race was stopped short & 1/2 points awarded & there was no need to stop in modest rain. it was simply that one more lap & a young upstart called senna in a toleman would have passed prost so mcliars "arranged" to have the race stopped. they continue to cheat to this day.

after the meeting on diffusers the smile will be wiped off his face & possibly his points as well. any f1 driver can win in a car that has cheated the rules & got an unfair advantage.

he's only said sorry after he got caught & is now trying to crawl out of being disqualified. why didn't he say sorry to trulli after the race?

if they're using tilke you can guarantee it will be a boring track like all the others they have designed. i'm sure they will have run out of money before the project is complete so we wont see it in action anyway

i hope they do use cosworth engines so they are an even bigger failure & quicker than most expect.

no they should drive exactly when bernie tells them to. if not, there are plenty of others waiting in the wings willing to have a go. if they cant see where they're going either get glasses or headlights fitted.

i think he's forgetting wiliams is part of the diffuser 3 & as such are likely to need to redesign their cars very soon & possibly lose all points accumulated. of course you can look flash driving an illegal car until you get caught

what's the point of mcliars trying to score points when they will be eliminated from F1 at least for this season if not permanently? why risk crashing into some decent teams? maybe that's their plan to go out with a bang.

the forgotten man of f1 who must remain that way. he is only commenting to try to get back into the media & they are very stupid to report anything he says.

good on you rory. at last someone who is highly respected brings sanity to the debate. if he says they're illegal then they are & should be banned immediatately & all points gathered so far by the diffuser 3 must be confiscated.

if mcliars wanted ryan to attend hearing then why did they sack him? are they more stupid than even i would give them credit for? clearly yes.

it wont matter what they do to that old barge. they will be disqualified from F1 for the latest incident following the cheating in 07. they must go forever this time

well i hope this time when they are banned that the drivers score no points as well. last time the drivers were allowed to keep their points driving an illegal car-what a farce & because the car had stolen the design from ferrari they managed to nearly win the drivers championship. FIA lost all their credibility on that day & i opposed mclaren team from that day forward

this is simply a plot by haug to slip into an F1 seat himself. he will stop at nothing to drive an F1 car, but i suppose he has a right since they are paying the bills & he could hardly score less points than the current losers.

lauda understands better than most so i accept what he says. i'm sure schumi could take a greater management role in future but he's probably too busy.

yeah sure & haug has offered to fill in as the driver for this outfit. actually he wont be any worse but they will need to remove some ballast

dont worry all you hamilton fans. he wont leave mclaren until he's lined up another drive-then you wont see him for dust. problem is i cant think of any top team that would want him.

quite right kimi. even brawn admitted ferrari have great engineering dept & will be on the pace shortly. they put so much effort into the 08 car they have been at a disadvantage so far in 09. this probelm is exaserbated because there are so many rule changes. this is not my excuse but brawns reason for ferrari early struggle if you read other sites.

surely this was the best race of his career. all the other ones have been as well-funny about that!!!!!!!1

they must be excluded forever but since the FIA is so probritish that is unlikely to occur. imagine if ferrari had done the same thing?

if you move hamilton dont go near ferrari because they dont want you. they want talented drivers with manners

i have predicted this for months & it appears to be coming true. it was obvious he would only stay at mclaren if it gave him a good chance to become champion. it is pathetic but should show his true character to his supporters that he is only in f1 for what he can get out of it & would never take the good with the bad.

i doubt they will get what they deserve because the controlling bodies are totally pro british. otherwise mclaren & hamilton would be banned from F1

rem the brawn, toyota & williams are illegal & should be excluded from the results so with vettels penalty the australian is actually on pole with kimi on row 2.

since most on this site have a very low IQ it is taking you longer to realise what hamilton is really like. you will get it one day. in the meantime he must be excluded from F1 forever so we can get back to fair honest racing. but this is unlikely when the FIA is so pro-british we cant have a fair championship

so what. he can choose his fuel load & he will be ok for some good points & can also win from there

may they finally get what they deserve & that can only be total exclusion from F1 forever. goodbye hamilton-see if you can find another team that will have. ferrari, brawn & renault certainly wont

bring it on. ferrari drivers are the masters in the wet. not bad in the dry either.

a german based japanese team appealing against a british team? toyota better just move on -justice will never be served

at least kimi knows the diffuser is the issue but brawn will get away with it because it is a british team. if that had been ferrari they would have been disqualified by now

actually hamilton i thought your best performance was when you turned up in paris trying to worm out of the cheating fiasco. a lot of good that did you

whilst i support ferrari in F1, on the road i drive mercedes, ferrari & toyota so if ferrari miss winning a couple then brawn mercedes is next best thing, otherwise toyota.

get your facts straight roundsquare. brawn has been gone from ferrari for 2 year whereby they won 3 out of 4 championships. the last 2 years he was at ferrari they won nothing. there is only one conclusion to make- ferrari are better without him. ferrari (& mclaren)are a fraction behind at the moment because they spent all of 08 fighting for the championship whereas honda(nee brawn) have had more than a year & US$300m spent on getting to where they are. how dare they be referred to as underdogs. under the circumstances ferrari are the underdogs.

he will feel the heat from ferrari very soon-probably malaysia & may very well be disqualified because the diffuser is not in the spirit of the rules. i remember years ago ligier won the first 2 races of the season & we didn't hear from them after that. many forget how quickly f1 moves ahead

i am sure he will fade out & be a virtual unknown by about midseason. he is already off the radar. by midseason he will be chasing another team

just as well bernies crazy scoring system is not being used otherwise brawn would now only concentrate on button & rubens could start his holidays early. now at least with a points system both will be supported for a lot longer

wrong ferrari27. get your facts straight they won because of schumi, todt & byrne but with brawn taking most of the credit. facts are facts-they didn't win anything at ferrari for his last 2 years but as soon as he left they have won 3 out of 4 championships. it may hurt you british supporters but you cant change the facts

is that dead wood they are getting rid of or if not they will soon be overrun by the other teams? also does that 270 to go include barrichello? there should be no old timers like that destroying the afternoon for so many. at least young vettel only ruined the race for one other.

so they had a bad day-they will bounce back-just wait & see. as for brawn they were not that special & kubica would have won had it not been for vettel. as for rubens he should have been disqualified but again the british based teams escape scrutiny unless it's so obvious. rem ferrari had not won a championship for while with brawn but as soon as he left they have won 3 out of the last 4. is that telling me something?

its easy to forget that when brawn was last at ferrari they won nothing but after he left they have won 3 out of the last 4 championships, so on that basis ferrari are better without him. button got very lucky this time & rubens should have been penalised for the demolition derby.

kubica, webber & vettel both made an honest assessment of their race dramas. better to forget this & move on to malaysia. only problem these mistakes allowed an undeserving hamilton to sneak some points.

think yourself lucky. kubica would have won this if vettel had driven fairly & ferrari would have been all over you as well if they hadn't struck trouble. bring on malaysia where KERS is more useful

rubens should be disqualified for what he did to the australian & i cant understand why red bull haven't protested. it happened right where i was sitting & was obvious to everybody. seems the FIA overlook what british teams do-it would have been different if it had been a ferrari.

brawn PG has got to be the luckiest team in living memory. i am confident that plenty of other teams including ferrari can overhaul them very quickly. if vettel had not been stupid hamilton would have at best been 6th-& he was very lucky to even get that.

brawn were very lucky to get this. saviour it because this wont last much longer. rubens was actually hopeless & would have been the luckiest driver i have seen after watching every GP since 1976. ferrari are right on the pace-all they need is a bit more luck & reliability.

obviously just trying to get back at the teams that protested against their illegal diffuser. clearly ferrari run within the rules.

what is all the fuss about? its the same journeyman button. the only difference is this year he's driving a car under protest of being illegal. even if they ultimately get away with it it is clearly not within the spirit or the intent of the regulations. wait till a level playing field is established after a few more races.

yeah, he was not empty at the start of his fast lap but what about at the end? anyway since he's running a diffuser that at best is not in the spirit of the rules, that would give him an advantage. where will he be when that is clarified & either banned or others are allowed to use it?

it only verifies the rubbish that has been said about this guy. the simple facts are most drivers are of a similar standard in F1 & their slight edge is never enough to overcome an big engineering advantage in the car. some have a resorted to cheating (mclaren), or unfair support from the FIA (mclaren) or dirty tactics (hamilton) but rarely that has made the difference.

clearly the diffuser is not in the spirit of the regulations so they must alter their design. ferrari always race within the spirit of the regulations & now brawn is out on his own he has become a cowboy

so far webber has outshone vettel (the golden boy). note webber has outperformed all previous teammates so maybe this year wont be any different

it doesn't matter how much spin mclaren want to put on it they were hopeless

from where i was sitting it did look as bad as it looked. actually even worse.

well what else would he say? do you really believe he would have the technical knowledge to know if the brawn is legal? he struggles to drive let alone be an engineer

filipe has finally let a closely guarded secret out of the bag. his father is in training & expected to at least be the ferrari reserve driver next year & no 2 if kimi retires. it will be great having 2 brazilians in the team.

of course filipe wouldn't mind having hamilton as a teammate because at least he knows he would destroy him. different matter with a talently kimi though. note filipe is not making overtones to join mclaren

this was so predictable i have said this many times. of course hamilton will try to get in where ever he has chance of winnning but ferrari wouldn't be that stupid to take on a spoilt brat journeyman like him that got very lucky a few times. they only search for real talent

no "morality" i am not jealous of potential male models. i was one myself for many years & good luck to him if his dad can pull strings to get him into F1. however he is out of his depth therefore in danger.

well i hope so. i have a toyota (amongst other cars) & i'm amazed this company can make anything even safe to drive at the speed limit, let alone at F1 speed. at least they're reliable.

well it seems he has all the corners worked out. pity he may be disqualified if they find his diffuser is not legal. oh well there's always next year in the midfield with a legal car.

well said filipe-a true sportsman. the proposed system must never be introduced.

i'm sure the "get serious" headline is a media beatup. he has always been serious and last year he had a few mechanical problems & an idiot running into the back of while stationary at a red light. even more infuriating, that idiot should not have even been allowed to drive because the team he drove for had been caught cheating.

i thought he was a commentator. if he has to drive will he be talking from the cockpit? that should be interesting especially when he needs to do interviews with other drivers

as a race driver he would make a good male model. stick to what you do best & let others drive. you only got there because of your dad.

i thought this was old news by now. hopefully mosley will be expelled & todt installed by the time it next comes up for discussion & sanity will prevail. about time bernie & his medals are buried at the same time

ferrari always stick to the rules & i find it disgusting that as soon as brawn is out on his own he starts bending them. may he cop what he deserves.

yeah right cyrano-what are you on? i'm sure its not legal. what has this got to do with brundles comment about alonso? stick to the subject man

he is a capable driver but nothing special. he would need a lot of cards to fall his way to get on the podium. i think red bull have dropped off the pace since early testing. i dont believe anybody has been sandbagging (it is no use to them) but some have been running light to attract sponsors & fool a few PF1 readers.

this article is nonsense. domenicali is simply referring to fact that before kimis contract expires (end of 2010) then it will be reviewed. there is no hint that he would be sacked before that & they would never put kimi under pressure. they need each other so it will be totally harmonious relationship

if that were true why did he leave britain for switzerland? was it the weather & people or to save taxes (hence make more money)? i left britain for the 1st reasons & he left for the last reason.

i think bernie has been sandbagging. he is actually sane & everything he says or does is only an act. the real bernie will reveal himself at the first race, just like mclaren NOT.

why is this news? everybody knows given the right equipment he is a threat to the drivers championship. that is why ferrari are interested should their current lineup retire

to spacedoutman-i have never tried haggis & i am not allowed to bring my pet sheep to melb-they are not allowed in hotels even in bleak city

in my last post i urged for a strike. if this is true it is the next best thing & i never thought i would agree with anything dennis ever did or said. that is why i suspect this is a media beatup. i'm already in melb for the GP so in a way hope they all turn up. maybe dennis knows his cars wont be competitive so he has nothing to lose by not turning up.

that solves to problem for this year but we need to have assurance they will never introduce such an absurd system.

this is closest to saying nothing i have read on PF1 this year-a complete waste of words & space

yes he does sound like a broken gramophone record so why doesn't he shutup? he is clearly past it if he even knows what a gramophone is. obviously he is still in charge while giving whitmarsh the impression there is a change at the top.

FOTA should impliment a strike unless sanity is restored at the FIA which would involve mosley & co being thown out.

he's just about covered the field with his predictions. who cares what he thinks anyway?

who cares about 2010? we need urgent changes now to overrule the stupid rule about driver with most wins is the champion. it is a direct change to reduce ferrari's chances because they are the only top team with equally talented drivers- typical change by the pro british FIA to try to destroy ferrari.

i've seen enough. i'm going to melbourne tommorow to get into the mood to see the egg on the face of all the mclaren fans & personnel when they prove to be as hopeless as they have appeared throughout your winter. anybody can get times like that on fumes & running light-meaningless.

i would support todt for president. at least it will bring impartiality back to F1 after all the bias being pro british with british running F1 for many years

who are these lunatics making these decisions? they need carting off to asylums immediately & all decisions reversed.

this is very bad for F1. the 1st winner for each team will then be supported by the team for the rest of the season to maximise their chances. by half season most drivers will know they cant win the championship so they will revert to modest pace-why risk your life for no purpose? everything about this ruling reduces the actual racing into a farce-surely they cant be serious? well at least the FIA will learn by this huge error & will be changed for next year.

so what unless we know the weight brawn are running. i suspect they have built the car to take KERS but since they are not using it they are underweight by at least the weight of the KERS system.

meaningless because we dont know if they have ballast or KERS.

its great bernie for those of us in australia. we can whip over to these GPs very easily instead of the long hauls to europe & america. the more the merrier for me-i've already booked a couple for this year but only attending one in europe this year(monaco).

the only fair system would be to keep it the same as current but ignore places scored by mclaren drivers as penalty for all the cheating in recent years. there is now ample evidence when we see their pace without the ferrari plans.

i bet hamilton is already knocking on doors to try to get a drive for next year, or even this year if anybody will have him. so much for loyalty

vijay-dont bother looking. even if you found one you'd be disappointed & want to give it back after the first tantrum.

i presume by now hamilton will be knocking on doors trying to organise a competitive drive for next year- maybe even this year if he can manage it. he had better move fast before his stocks fall when people finally realise he is nothing special.

fairly obvious mclaren are stalling for time awaiting the latest bodywork tweaks to be produced that they have copied from the front runners. all that takes time but time is running out for them. by contrast ferrari will be starting work on the 2010 car soon. at least they use their own ideas

it's about time brawn didd some serious testing by running at race weight.

i guess if toyota dont win at least one GP this year it will be their last season. so this will be their last season & they may pull the plug before it finishes if the car proves to have little potential.

mercedes is losing most years so they are used to it. they got lucky once in recent times & even then lost the constructors title. of course before that they were disqualified for cheating & fined $100M. i have one for basic transport & if that is any indication i find it incredible they have ever won anything. however it will be more embarrassing than usual if their customer cars beat them as well.

daveyboy- being a world champion often doesn't mean a thing. JV was the most undeserving champion ever until hamilton came along, so the fact that button could beat JV means nothing, especially since JV was near the end of his career. becoming a world champion is determined by how good the car is. that is why more drivers have become world champion in a ferrari than any other car.

this seems to be a lot of woffle about nothing. as if they are going to admit the car is running illegally to try to attract sponsors because if he did that it would defeat the purpose. come down to melb & join me looking at the smile being wiped off the collective brawnGP face.

must be the gullible brits betting. since rubens soundly beat button last year in the same car why wouldn't he do it again this year in the same car?

which top 3 are you referring to? we know ferrari & BMW but who is the 3rd team? toyota or brawn maybe? in reality i would say that renault & red bull are also ahead of williams which makes them a midfield team at best.

get used to it mclaren supporters. they sometimes produce complete duds & in spite of bringing out updated versions during the year they remain duds. bring on melbourne.

what would allan know? of course a car can look impressive if it running with no ballast which is the only explanation of brawn's speed over long runs. conversely i imagine ferrari have extra ballast & fuel to hide their speed until melbourne. i'll be in my usual spot watching it unfold hoping at least that hamilton is nowhere at the end of the race.

the fact that ferrari are not doing the final week of testing should be ample evidence they are sandbagging. this should put fear into mclaren & ex-honda supporters

filipe-stick to what you do best driving & let the ferrari engineers do their bit. have faith in them that they have made the fastest car & brawn are running without ballast & on fumes

brawn are going to look pretty stupid in melb when you need to run at race weight with fuel on board. hopefully no sponspors will get sucked in until they see the 1st race.

its good to know STR are not so completely stupid as the rumourmongers in F1

if hamilton is meant to be such a great driver but consistently comes last in practice then the mclaren is actually even worse that what the test times show. alternatively mclaren car maybe not so slow but hamilton is actually hopeless. its really a lose-lose situation for them. i'm loving F1 even better than ever

for one of the most biased commentators in F1 to be saying this then mclaren should be worried

running on fumes & trying to attract sponsors. this old trick is not practicing for the championship but doing enough to suck in a few gullible brits. i'm pleased ferrari doesn't need to resort to these measures but still manages to trounce mclaren. then again so does everybody else.

i would have thought he would be more overwhelmed with mclarens pace -or lack thereof

rubens-you need more than team spirit or you wont last long. you needs sponsors with lots of money & i guess that is in short supply. looked what happened to super aguri when honda pulled the plug!

of course fry is vital to brawnGP. now you've got button doing the driving fry will be useful making the lunches.

if you want to win start looking fior a new team. mclaren are a spent force

i drove a few laps on the melb GP circuit last week & was very excited knowing it will be the scene of great embarrassment for mclaren & hamilton in a couple of weeks. incidently it is looking great with most things complete ahead of time.

well said AndyGT. it sure shows what difference it makes when mclaren need to design their own car for a change. i think there is enough evidence now that mclaren & its drivers should be stripped of all points gained during 08. that make filipe world champion. same thing happened years later when the east germans were found to be cheating in the olympics. it should be no different in F1.

there will be more than vettel to worry about. first he needs a fast car, then he needs to start worrying about 5 other drivers who are better then him possibly in better cars. he had better start planning for next year & hope mclaren still want him.

as predicted brawnGP & STR running on fumes to impress or attract sponsors. when do they get serious & show they are hopeless?

the only time sutil will eye the midfield is when they lap him or when he sees them disappearing on the 1st lap.

i suppose we will have to endure brawn GP running on fumes so as to look impressive with aim of attracting sponsors. this is becoming very tedious. i hope rubens has been in training to try & get his weight down or car may struggle to get moving.

just as well rubens is not getting paid 7.5M pounds per GP won (to match button) or the team would go broke before the season starts.

at least with them being on the grid button can claim things will improve next year & use the excuse that they have had no practice this year. button always manages to con the powers that be that he is a great driver but doesn't have the machinery. this has played right into his hand yet again.

what a yawn. we've being hearing this for years but he cant deliver

you dont need podiums glock. dont forget you are only there to help mclaren as you managed last year.

brawn only looked good at ferrari because of all the others around him. he will be lost without those & if he keeps fry they will go further downhill. i'm pleased he's there though to finally prove he's nothing special-will be lucky to score a point by the end of the season (if the outfit lasts that long)

i thought the collaboration between mclaren & force india was to bring FI closer to mclarens pace. thankfully it has done exactly the opposite

who ever might be favorite it sure isn't hamilton. i doubt he will reach position 6 by the end of the season.

so we can assume they have been using KERS extensively in practice. lets hope they do use KERS in melb & it's reliable, so when they finish nowhere they will be running out of excuses. let's see hamilton's face then- that should wipe that stupid grin off his face.

yeah they sure did prove their pace for all the see. oh well mclaren always has 2010 to look forward to but by then hamilton will be trying to worm out of his contract. i'm looking forward to my annual trip to melb even more than usual.

mclaren have blown 09 so they may as well start preparing the 2010 car. we note de le rosa already knows this so has been testing bits for next year. i think hamilton will be looking for another drive soon & he is wasting his time knocking on the scuderias door.

should it be Brawn & Brain Racing? probably not if Fry remains there.

was rubens put there to make button look good or vice versa? actually they deserve each other

i'm looking forward to all the excuses when this outfit goes nowhere in 09. best to have 2 drivers past their use by date than young hot shots so brawn has someone to blame other than himself.

now buemi will come back to earth with a thud now he needs to run 09 specs. actually looking at that picture it already looks like that has happened

only about 25 sleeps till we see how hopeless mclaren really are this year. cant wait

he's a competant driver but anybody who understands F1 would agree he was lucky last year & reality will probably set in this year. he needs to get to ferrari one day to have a real chance

very symbolic that mclaren & hamilton's career go up in flames at the same time. why does he still bother to turn up?

proves just living on the senna name is not always enough. you need to be able to drive as well.

dont insult rosberg. he is already far better than hamilton but in the wrong car. everyone knows its impossible to excell in a bad car-you can only beat your teammate

slow down glock. you know you are only an effective F1 driver when you drive like my grandmother. you probably make more money that way as well.

should be a bit like darwin's theory of evolution-ONLY THE FITTEST WILL SURVIVE.

stupid CooperS-it is rubens with button (not instead of) you moron. i imagine he will be paying to drive

i'm surprised that PF1 even printed this. of course filipe is correct, everybody on the grid would be rooting for him. i venture to say so would heikki.

excluding the cheats & also rans there are only 5 drivers in F1 kimi,filipe,alonso, vettel, kubica

what will kovi's excuse be this time? maybe he was trying out the 2015 specs on the mclaren after the other drivers have had similar excuses.

why is glock practicing to drive fast when he is more effective for mclaren by driving slowly?

they stole the show because ferrari didn't run

get used to it fisi. there will be plenty more of that this season

dont worry if you're not sure danica-the rest of us are & it wont be F1

you will never hear the boss at ferrari favour one driver over another. whitmarsh has stuffed up big time & his job is not even 24 hours old. imagine what he can do in a whole year. i'm enjoying this year already

no thussey -old frank has looked bad for a long time, although a real glamour puss compared to some in F1

lets hope this is correct so they sink even quicker.

they'll need all the practice they get to avoid being embarrassing this year? especially now they have lost their major sponsor. ferrari dont have that problem with sponsors still lining up to support the greatest motor racing team in history.

nico-you know as well as in do that williams wont win anything this year (or even come close) so why dont you find a drive for next year now?

why would schumi waste his hard earned dollars or time on this basket case? he knew brawn was only made to look good by all those around him at ferrari & he has proved to be nothing without that.

they've got the charges all wrong. they should be charged in inverse proportion to the points they get. that is a good incentive to score points to ensure you will pay the least. why should kimi & filipe need to part with their hard earned dollars while bourdais cruises around at the back of the field & gets rewarded with a small licence fee? exception of course would be the mclaren drivers who are driving a car made by company that cheated-the $100M fine they got is nowhere near enough punishment for what they did. we need to bring fairness back to F1

he may as well look forward to the launch because he has'nt much else to look forward to

what everyone getting excited about? even if they do front up to melb i can hear the button excuses already-"we're off the pace because we have had no practice, but we'll improve as the seasons goes by". like hell they will

which will sink quicker- honda or stewart withour RBS? may they sink together or maybe stewart could cobble up a team himself.

lets see what hamilton can do in a force india. vettel impressed in the STR & if hamilton could do 1/2 as well in force india even i would be impressed.

fisi by the time all this USF1 stuff happens you will most likely be well & truly retired.

layercake-fruitcake more likely!!!!!! you obviously haven't been to australia lately to see what a disaster virgin blue is, which is one of branson's brainchilds. losing massively with more new planes about to arrive & bums on seats dropping. if his F1 business model is that bad my advise would be to let honda die of natural causes. at least the death will be less painful than if branson takes over.

well the americans are full of really bad ideas & this one is right up there. after all it was USA that started the global meltdown & that was no accident. this is doomed from the beginning so i wonder why they are starting? probably got hold of someones money who is even more stupid than they are.

what a lot of nonsense-there are many world champions who for one reason or another never win again. after all he fluked it last time so i am sure he wont do it again.

kimi should know better than most which is the best team to be in. after all he has experienced mclaren & chosen to stay with the scuderia for the rest of his career. & dont try to tell me mclaren wouldn't have him back if they got half a chance to replace kovi.

now that's the kiss of death -what jordan wants wont happen.

graining -history is no guide to the future. kimi will win the next 3 in a row if filipe doesn't take a couple of them.

why dont they just move all the GPs to spain? simply convert all the bull fighting arenas to GP tracks & stop killing animals at the same time. a win for everyone & at least the weather will normally be ok.

your puns are so good i nearly split my sides. lets hope virgin gets honda & they be as successful with this venture as they have been with virgin airlines in australia. if so, they're doomed & branson will be bailing out soon after.

yeah i'm confident as well-unless you pay your licance fee, or get someone else to, you wont be racing stupid. why dont you save the money & risk & just give up?

let them on the track i say. they need something to spice up a dead boring GP. Also where is that mad british minister who was seen on the main straight a few years ago? at least he made things interesting, & if a britain needed to be sacrificed for the good of the sport then so be it.

what's it matter who buys it? seems like only the british are that stupid to buy this outfit, & if branson can be as successful with honda as he's been with virgin blue in australia i hope he gets it & its doomed.

i agree totally with philtypr-you're spot on, but surely you must agree anything in india will be better than enduring another british GP. i wrote last year that donnington wont happen but this was rubbished from many quarters-looks like i'm right again

am i missing something? top teams will save up to 50% but small teams the savings will be even more dramatic-they will save up to 50%. in australia 50% is not bigger than 50% but it must be where dennis comes from or his statement is nonsense. i'm glad i moved.

if that's the best he can do why is he employed as a TV commentator? since he's british i wouldn't expect any better from him

why does beumi only drive the old car? is he scared to compare himself in an 09 spec car or are they trying to look good to attract sponsors?

anything would be better than another englishman. at least STR saw the light

he's done enough damage to F1 already without another term. what we need is an italian president to bring back a bit of neutrality to the role. i think Luca D would be perfect if ever he steps down at ferrari

WHY WOULD THIS BE NEWS? THESE ARE THE MAIN CHANGES FOR 09 SO IT IS ONLY NATURAL

what a lot of nonsense. ferrari need that for consumables & driver salary. how do they make a car as well within that budget?

about time. this is only easy solution to mad scramble & pot luck nature of closing pit lane when the pace car is deployed. if they cant refuel then rarely will it be critical to get to pits because even if tyres are worn it is still safe to circulate behind pace car for a few laps

well symonds if he's that good you better make your car go faster otherwise he wont stick around for much longer.

another kit car with problems. i want to see only pure race cars on the grid which leaves only ferrari, BMW, toyota & renault to some extent. if we get rid of the kit cars then other manufacturers will be attracted to F1 when finances improve

actually the car wasn't that bad. it was simply piquet was so bad it made alonso look good. the best driver last year was filipe & would have comfortably won had it not been for extreme bad luck.

obviously changed to help mclaren after hamilton complained he needed more time in car to test KERS etc.

remember mark is also intelligent, the only thing holding him back is bad luck & bad legs. vettel will only move on to better things if he can soundly beat webber when both cars perform perfectly.

KERS would be detrimental to performance the way toyota have designed it. they will need to wait until they can copy the ferrari system before they get on the pace

welcome to ferrari fernando when kimi & filipe decide to retire. keep practicing in the french mule until then.

what a stupid comment. according to bernie drivers would behave differently with a medal system so the results would be unknown under that system. you cannot look at the past & infer what the results might have been.

of course luca doesn't want a GP around the streets of Rome-he wants it inside one of its old buildings. very smart especially if it rains.

all the hamilton fans had better hope this never happens because it will be very embarrassing for hamilton. i would love the hear the excuses though.

yes he should be really worried. however talented drivers like kimi & filipe dont need much time to get used to their cars.

there is only one perfect solution. make pitstops for fuel illegal then there will rarely be an urgent need to pit during early part of safety car deployment. typical of FIA to dream up rules that help the non ferrari teams (like the examples you mention)

how many laurels have STR got?-not many when i last counted

even senna offered to drive for nothing to get into the team he wanted. heidfield is lucky to even have an F1 drive -he should also offer to drive for nothing & the money they save could be spent on more engineers that could make his car go faster to hide some of his faults.

not good for us because this will be night time for us in australia. this means virtually all the GPs will now be at night (local time)for those that cant see them live. even our own GP is at an inconvenient time. still a small price to pay to live in the best country on earth.

does this mean STR will be using the ferrari KERS system?

i'm sure his mum will be excited with this news. cant say anybody else will though

it wont matter much for you mario-you wont be winning many medals this year in any case

an F1 race around the streets of Rome would be no different to normal peak hour in that city. give it a go i say

they virtually have 2009 wrapped up. they can now start work on 2010 car

he's sandbagging. actually he thinks car is so good he expects ferrari to win 8 out of the first 10 GPs.

toyota-get a life. work on your own car.

a good stategy by ferrari to hide the true performance of this car so as to give the oppostion a false sense of security. still i dont expect much competition this year.

i saw a headline like this before & again it is misleading because it appears bernie didn't shoot anybody. this is just a desperate grab for readers by PF1

at least he is half right. forget mclaren for this year. with design based on a clean sheet they wont be in the race unless they have again stolen the ferrari plans.

that could be said about all the teams, so why is this newsworthy?

this is a tough australian (like most). however i suspect he wont be that fast when he first drives but will improve before melbourne. if he can beat vettel this season he deserves a better team-if not, his career is on a downward trend.

filipe-you have never needed to prove yourself. the fact you were chosen by ferrari is enough for me to know you are worthy. so why is this news? we all know he would have been champion were it not for the incident in singapore & would have annihilated the opposition without a couple of mechanical mishaps.

why would he need to worry about this? there is no proposal to cut his salary. i would raise it if i was in charge & would be happy to pay an extra premium for my next purchase so we can retain the best drivers.

i cant see what the fuss is about. the teams already know some races stress the engines more than others. this rule allows them to balance out the useage, so for instance they could save one engine to do even 4 races at different times during the season on low stress circuits (not necessarily consecutive) & use a single engine only once or twice on high stress circuits. i assume this will not include their friday engines.

there is no need for a DTI investigation. just get rid of Fry & the genuine buyers will come. then if fry wants to buy the team he can line up like the rest of them

maybe this means ferrari might get a fair go this season rather than all the bias against ferrari in the past. it's about time after years of favoritism to the british teams. that would mean that in future if a team like mclaren cheats (as they did in 07) then the drivers would also lose their points because how could points gained with an illegal car ever be valid? but they were in 07.

of course this will be his last team. why would any driver want a different team if they had the choice? any other team would be a downward step so he would prefer to retire

of course heikki wants more. problem is he aint going to get it hanging around at mclaren.

i hope they stick with this barge for the rest of the season. by the look of it, its just what ferrari has been hoping for.

what else would he say? and quite rightly so as well.

so what if it lives up to its potential? 5th or 6th is nothing to get excited about. it needs to deliver far more but i have my doubts.

i travelled up there in summer so i can only imagine how difficult it will be in winter. good luck but even i have to admit it will be a lottery & kimi will be up against some professionals. even hakkinen has had plenty of practice.

mark -why not use that one? it seems reasonable to me. you just need to stay ahead of vettel which will be a tall order. mark as you may remember i won your crash helmet in a competition when you raced for jaguar & was presented by you & sir jackie stewart at the Wentworth hotel in sydney-it takes pride of place in my study & i have supported you ever since

cant get too excited to see the 5th or 6th best car on the grid after spending megabucks

they've probably heard honda has access to some ferrari technical data so they want to help themselves to it. sneaky if true but par for the course. the "helping out" ploy is only a smokescreen.

trust PF1 to put a biased twist on the facts. of course they will make changes like every other year -its called development so they can win another world championship. just because they won more than any other team they wont rest on their huge number of laurels.

to damon the idea that britain is the centre of the motorsport universe is about as stupid as the geocentric world view of the middle ages. but then the british are stupid enough to believe that as well so i wont spoil the illusion. it's a breath of fresh air living in australia in more ways than one.

i wont hold my breath for this one. if the british unionists are anything like the british unionists in australia it wont be finished this century.

if they have all these buyers wanting a team without an engine why dont they sign one up? is button expected to push the car around the circuits or maybe the can convert it into a pedal car for him?

i suppose coulthard is hoping button gets a drive somewhere now he is the only british driver left, since hamilton joined buemi as the Swiss drivers

good on you stefano. you would not want to risk ferrari's reputation on an unknown chassis. makes a mockery of what brawn said only a few days ago.

stefano-you tease. just sandbagging again to give the trash the will to go on. cant wait for melb where i already have my seat booked & the bulls--it stops.

they have won 8 out the past 10 championships & by looking at this there is no reason not to expect they will do it again.

spacedoutman-you say enough stupid comments without me adding any more-you're doing a good job on your own

give him any sort of car & he will wring its neck. i'm surprised ferrari allow him to risk his safety in this form of sport.

now they & mclaren can see how to make a race car they need to delay their introduction so they can copy as much of ferrari as possible.

a stunning car to match a stunning driver. a match made in heaven

stunning as expected. the others may as well crawl back in their holes & start preparing for next year

good-now kubica wont look so scarey any more.

why doesn't kimi say walker was substandard for most of his career? he wouldn't because he is too well mannered like all ferrari drivers.

why dont they have a follow up article that the drivers hail dennis? then we'll all be sick.

if klein got ahead of himself does that mean he would run himself over by his own car? i want to see this?

what has he said which is not obvious to anybody that follows F1? well i suppose he tries to stay relevant by any means he can find. also why is he smiling -does he know something we dont? is he about to replace heidfeld?

well if it happens at least its moved closer to scotland. i think they should move it up to scotland-what a great business plan that would be.

you serve up this garbage when there is absolutely no news. what else do you expect him to say? if you want some even handed reporting mclaren should appoint me their press secretary.

well if you cant handle a GP at donington why dont you pull out & make most of us happy?

he should finally be carted off to the nursing home. it seems these old has beens still try to get in the news & the best way is to make outrageous suggestions. his predictions were usually the kiss of death even when he was reasonably sane.

the bull..it stops when they are asked to pay money. how many will be left in the process then?

no chance of this. so it looks like back to silverstone or even brands hatch. still britain (like australia) doesn't really deserve a GP.

as long as they can keep the hopeless brits out like button i'm satisfied. problem is he looks a bit scarey, but puts kubica in a better light

daveyboy-you showed your gross stupidity because you dont know the difference between the monaco tunnel & la rascasse. if you had been there as many times as me & driven around you would know the difference.

yes they are bred tough in australia. pity he cant drive a bit faster though. hopefully he'll be quicker with a broken leg.

spacemanspif-if your brain was a little bigger you would be able to put a sentence together that was readible

a ferrari engine attached to this old barge would be as embarrassing as with force india. they should only supply to teams that show real potential like STR. typical for brawn to crawl back to ferrari when he gets into trouble. if he's so smart why doesn't he build his own engine? however i can understand any team wanting the best.

to spacedmansplif- i honestly dont follow cricket at all so who did south africa beat & when? & so what anyway? i fall asleep when the word cricket is mentioned although i have been told australia is generally very successful at it considering our small population.

yes brucetravis i have been to africa where my partner got mugged. so much for your "friendly people". i would rather take my chances with the white pointers in aussie any day where the odds are fairly favorable.

pioneers yet again. when they have system perfected all the other teams will follow. i suppose a certain team has already managed to steal their technical data for this year as they have managed to do in the past. hope they are finally eliminated from the competition permanently which is exactly what should should have happened last time.

well said gilgen. i am certain we are different people but i agree with everything you say. do you want to marry me?

when i read the headline i thought stewart had shot the pairs of them but i read he has only served up more old garbage to keep his name in the media. if he had shot them that would be more interesting news.

i think he should have come to exciting australia for a holiday instead of kenya. also we have better pilots

even more proof he has lost his marbles. i think the G forces affect some F1 drivers brains in much the same way that certain boxers end up mumbling fools. clearly there has been no such affect on schumi.

i know you're not di resta but the rest of us are

that KERS thing was only a smokescreen by luca to give the others a sense of security.great stategy-it clearly fooled idiots like you. cant wait till melbourne (although we call it bleak city up here)

he says winning the championship is all that matters but surely not looking so scarey should be up there near the top of the list for him?

SUMMERARSE you are about as funny as funeral & very boring. why dont you try to comment on something about f1 for a change instead of commenting on me?

daveyturd33-ferrari dont need mclaren's outdated data, so that's why it only flowed in one direction leading to the greatest fine for the greatest cheats in sporting history-FACT THAT CANT BE DENIED & WE FERRARI SUPPORTERS LAUGH EVERY TIME THOSE PATHETIC MCLAREN SUPPORTERS TRY TO WORM AROUND THOSE FACTS

according to some i am too young to be employed by mclaren but since i am actually 61 i am probably too old. besides i visited their headquarters a few years ago & was not impressed. why would i want to work in a miserable cold country like GB anyway?-that's why i moved to sunny sydney. even hamilton wont live there.

well f1man, schumi clearly has a better grasp of english than you. FYI the correct spelling is "losing" & "himself" is one word. so if his english is better than yours & i dare say he drives better than you, that would make you the loser.

good one robbie01. whilst i have driven an F1 car around philip island (home to the australian moto GP) i dont claim to be an F1 driver, so you are correct hamilton is a better known F1 driver than myself, so what is your point stupid?

well said gilgen. FYI i am from australia & as you know we are not the same people unless i type in my sleep & use name gilgen. i suppose anything is possible

well that's the kiss of death for kimi. so it's filipe for champion in 09. i will be happy with either with ferrari rapping up the WCC well before the last race.

i've got an idea. send him the sydney to do a victory lap. they would need no security at all because virtually nobody knows who he is.

you are dead right damon. only people of hamilton's calibre get MBEs. that was my point so was surprised stepney didn't get one as well-maybe he will go straight to knighthood this year. dennis should get something for running an outfit that were the greatest cheats in sporting history & got away with it with just a fine. surely that deserves recognition with a knighthood?

to summerarse i have been to US in past 2 years & hamilton is a total unknown there. i agree with snoopdog, hamilton would be ideal for driving in video clips, its just on the track where he cheats that i have a problem. yes that screetching girlfriend is a good match-she's an unknown with most of the population as well.

schumi is trying to be diplomatic but knowing full well that mclaren should not have been in the 08 championship (because they stole ferrari technical data in 07 & copped the biggest fine in the history of sport). this of course proves the FIA bias towards mclaren but ferrari still managed to win the title.

but elvisbeavis-most royals are ar..holes so if hakkinen is "racing royalty" what does that make him? so for the first time i agree with you

i agree he should be with a top team. there are always tea & sandwiches to prepare even in these tough times

well said johnnyrod927-good to see somebody other than myself understands F1. as for the gargage uttered by biso100 about hamilton being most recognised F1 driver on the planet. he should get out more often & find hamilton is virtually unknown in US or australia. even schumi at the peak of his career could walk around in US virtually unnoticed, so hamilton would be even less known. hamilton could stand on a street corner all day in sydney & nobody would look sideways. maybe if he was busking with his screetching girlfriend it might be different.

not fair to ask filipe questions like this. he is such a nice guy he would not want to be seen as rocking the boat. he is capable of winning under any system if he stays with ferrari.

you idiot robbie01-i dont disagree with what hakkinen said. it's such an obvious statement, my point is why bother making it when many drivers such as vettel could become WDC given the right machinery. also what has the fact he has won championships himself have any bearing on the subject? any F1 driver or spectator for that matter knows what it takes to become WDC (a very quick reliable car for morons like you).

alonso has incredible faith in ferrari also knowing full well the FIA have shown to be biased against ferrari on many occasions. best example was in 07 when mclaren cheated (so were rightly thrown out) but the FIA allowed the drivers to keep their points who got them in an illegal car. there is nothing so evil in sport as a bias to equal that one.

it wont worry the ferrari drivers because they will only see cars when they start to lap them & at that stage those cars need to let them overtake. different situation for BMW & mclaren though

seems hakkinen wants to keep his name in articles with banal comments like these. anyone of the top 10-15 drivers could become champion next year if they are driving for a top team. guess why some many like alonso & vettel have publicly stated their desire to join ferrari? it must simply be the red color matches their complexion.

yeah they hand the same crap awards to australians for doing equally useless things so why would anybody be surprised? i just dont think it's fair that stepney wasn't given one as well because he is even more deserving. hopefully this rubbish & the monarchy will disappear from australia soon because its one of the few things it needs to fix as it approaches perfection.

for you robert a face job might be even more important & you can easily be improved

he may be too old or too slow when the current drivers retire so ferrari would not be silly enough to commit to alonso till nearer the time. why would the most successful team in history need to grab alonso or anyone else now when the best will be waiting for a slot at a time to suit ferrari? i dont think it does alonso's career any good by openly showing his desires so publicly because any other team will know if they get him it will only be a stopgap. also it wont do his negotiating position any favours if it comes time to talk money. ferrari have been effectively told he is desperate.

i dont blame him. get rid off all the dead wood like fry & he may become interested.

stupid bernie. how long would button need to wait to get into a top team? not in this lifetime anyway. if button had a chance for a top slot do you think he would be silly enough to have just signed with honda?

it's all relative. we are comparing the 2 best drivers in the world but luck also comes into it so maybe kimi wont beat filipe in 09 but that is no reason the reduce his salary. i would pay extra for my next ferrari just to keep him there.

what will i do now? i had booked my ticket to come over to celebrate

clearly a case of ferrari sandbagging. very wise luca

to monercy-yes i got another clue for xmas but i returned it because i have too many of them already. if i had known your address i would have sent it to you because you clearly haven't got one.

i suppose when button & brawn dont deliver they will say the peso is not as strong as the pound or some equally ridiculous excuse

well said bjchap-if i said it i would be called racist, but we're realistic. anyway it will put even more pressure on brawn to show that he can make a difference, because he wont have superstars like byrne, todt, schumi to back him up

sounds like he agrees with the old adage-the way to make a small fortune is to start with a large one-go carlos

pedro -if you drive a bit faster it will be more demanding. try it if you can but you can only do so much with what you've got

i think next years PF1 resolution should be to publish my more controversial posts instead of the tame ones

if you stay there next year toyota try to get noticed a bit further up the grid

of course you are right flavio, but did you notice schumi hasn't been in any races for the past 2 years?

well they have won 3 out of the last 4 championships with schumi as consultant so what would they want to stop now, in spite of all the cheating by mclaren?

if you have an engine freeze-how do you get the cars started? of course we dont have problems like that down here-its 30C today for instance

good on you luca. when i was last at the Coliseum i had exactly the same idea as you. what a great spot for a GP. beats San Marino any day but Monza must stay. i bet Senna wished it had been held there.

there are a lot of very gullible morons who read this website. good for a laugh anyway

sato you need to look elsewhere. STR will only let people called sebastian drive for them. hamilton need not apply either.

spot on "finestkind" i wish more people would take your advise but if you look at this article you will find not many took your advise.

interesting that my posts cops flak when i have said before-i dont believe most of what i say so why are you so stupid to believe it? must be the standard of the average gullible reader of PF1

filipe -you deserve at least what ferrari are paying you-probably more. same goes for kimi. however many of the others in F1 are overpaid & would willingly drive for less

robbie04-try telling me something i dont know stupid. fact is Tata group is involved is sponsorship & technical partnership with ferrari & they own some iconic british brands. yes spode you are right-that ferrari favoritism garbage is something pedalled on this website & clearly there is no truth in it-never has been but it makes the pro hamilton creeps feel more comfortable

good on you F1_FREAK_666-its good to know at least a few people understand F1 on this site. I think you are also right that many brits only started to watch F1 a short while ago since hamilton became known & they tend to be the morons attracted to this pro hamilton propaganda website.

senna27-dont let the facts get in the way of a good story. also mercedes have nothing to commemorate because they have won nothing in F1 as a constructor of an f1 car-they supply engines to a team that still hasn't won anything for 10 years. i own a merc -for transport only-it beats going by bus, but only just.

yeah ben84-nearly to the floor

ferrari have more laurels to rest on than other other team in any motorsport but they choose not to. good to see so many new italians in the team-they obviously agree it is better this way than risking british (like the one that stole their technical data) or brawn who on reflection was there for a great ride on the back of byrne, todt & schumi. ok to have british helpers like mick A-C, but they need to be watched.

lets hope the british dont buy any more ferraris-then the waiting list wont be so long for the rest of us, especially for the V8s. sadly though this will not be the case.

to monercy- i never brag about aussie strengths in F1. in fact the opposite -i have frequently said that there is no real interest in F1 in australia & we dont deserve to have a GP. the only truly amazing F1 aussie was triple champion sir jack who even won with his own car -a feat that is unlikely to be matched in F1 ever again-certainly not by the british

bisozero-you're delusional but then so are most other british-par for the course really. if it makes you happy to think that, who am i to stop you. SCOTTISH WAS A TYPO.

good on you howett for saying exactly what i have been saying that this is old news & all main players in F1 already know it. however he may not agree with decision because he loses out, but understands the historic importance of ferrari. it is only the moronic PF1 readers which need educating

yes "race" murray was with channel 10 for aust GP & had the gear on but it was a one off situation. we have brundle/allen for each GP-same as britain

sounds good to me aiden. in fact next years mclaren will be about as fast as a knee brace anyway so they're nearly there. plenty of others will line up to have the priveledge & prestige or racing against ferrari who will remain in F1

i can only conclude that most of the PF1 readers are miserable poms going into a miserable winter with nothing better to do than whinge. conversely in australia we are in a magnificent summer with winters as good as your summer. so we remain happy.

give up & just do what you do best -making basic transport for the masses. nobody buying a corolla gives a damn if you're in F1 or not. i doubt they even know what it is

i hope you have all placed orders (like me) for one of the 499 Scuderia Spider 16M being produced to celebrate ferrari's 16th constructor title. mclaren could produce a similar model but they would need to call it the Mclaren Zero to commemorate the number of championships won as a thorourbred racer like ferrari (not counting kit car). similarly what would mercedes call their car to commemorate their constructor titles?

to captain_stupid-yes i know the difference between a film & sport but what you forget that without extra financial support ferrari wouldn't be there so neither would at least 1/2 the audience.

to all those miserable brits that criticise ferrari, isn't it great that the Tata Group is to become a ferrari sponsor (& technical partnership) after earlier this year buying rover, jaguar & land rover? now some of your sacred brands are owned by Indians. seems like ferrari is fairly special that sponsors are lining up while others struggle to keep theirs in tough times.

to fluffybum-read the posts, most agree with me, so why am i singled out? also kimi won & let the pressure off & see what happened to him in 08. maybe same for hamilton if he lets the pressure off.

to mrstupidguy-no you wouldn't be a fool to predict what will happen next year. it will be same championship winners as in 07.

that fact that there were so many posts on this topic only highlights the stupidity of most of its readers. THIS IS NOT NEWS & IS WELL KNOWN BY ALL TRUE F1 FANS. i'm only disgusted that the extra helping hand for ferrari is so small.

tell him he's dreaming. its pathetic just because his father was an F1 driver he suddenly thinks he needs to be one. my father was a train driver but that didn't mean i had to become one.

to "howee" i left that miserable place & i am not english with scotish & west indian parents- similar to hamilton actually. since i am 150mm taller than hamilton, if i am little as you claim, then what is he & possibly you?

your pathetic response is only symtomatic of being british-you couldn't be anything more. you conveniently forget the recent ferrari success has largely been due to byrne, todt & schumi-south african, french & german. in fact brawn was lucky to be with them & fed off their success. ferrari most recent 3 successes came after brawn left & look how honda went after he joined them along with other british like fry

i agree firebird. i want to see jenson on the grid too, but stuck in 1st gear or neutral so he stays there. he doesn't deserve to move

so can all the rest of them improve. so why is this news? the same could be said about filipe or kimi but of course this website wouldn't mention that

tell someone who cares. if you score no points in 08 i dont think anyone is interested in your plans for 09

to "race" murray hasn't done the ITV F1 commentary in aust for years-we get same as you guys except while you have longer ads we get local commentator for a few minutes. murray did help out at last aust gp as special commentator. he is one of the good british

if you're scared dont race. there are plenty to take your place.

why would they want to comment on what is old news anyway? how would anyone seriously imagine ferrari would stay in F1 without more pay? it's like when they make a film the stars get a lot more than the extras & deserve to, because that is what people go to see.

i can understand richards coming back to F1 but why would mallya want to own the worst 2 teams in F1? surely better to try to move force india up the grid

can somebody translate moron "dgrtscorpio" into english? what is "favoratized". it is only natural that the moronic class would support hamilton so we just live with it.

if the honda is still on track like is claimed then they are cheating because they are only allowed to practice at designated times. which track are they on so they can be reported to the FIA? still they are not the 1st british based team to cheat.

SMART MAN THIS BERNIE. HE KNEW WITHOUT EXTRA FOR FERRARI THERE WOULD BE NO SHOW IF THEY WALKED AWAY.

RON I WOULDN'T TURN MY BACK ON ANYTHING OR ANYONE IF I WAS YOU

to biso1000 -buy your own ticket. i always go to melb, monaco & one other gp each year-probably silverstone in 09. can you least afford that one? PLEASE DONT DEMONSTRATE YOUR STUPIDITY ABOUT THE F1 TELECAST IN AUSTRALIA-IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME ONE AS THE BRITISH GET AT LEAST SINCE 1976 WHEN I STARTED WATCHING.

to eagerbeaver-who is craig lowndes? i have never seen a V8 race in my life & dont intend to start now at 61. yes there have been a few british in ferrari like the creep that stole their technical data. also chris dyer comes from ballarat which was in australia the last time i drove thru it.

biso100-dont show your complete ignorance. the only F1 telecast to australia is from ITV & next year will be from BBC. we have never had anything but british telecasts since 1st one in 1976.

well at least fisi it cant get any worse & maybe with luck you might work your way up the 2nd last. stick at it.

why is this oxygen thief still allowed to remain at honda? he got them into this mess in the first place. if they had decent leadership they would be winning GPs by now & could remain in F1. the british seem to want to tamper with & control everything. luckily ferrari can remain largely british free- that's why they are so successful.

when mclaren find out how hopeless hamilton is compared to the new breed coming up, even they wont want him in a few years time.

i didn't realise you could become an orthopedic surgeon by driving a car around in circles for many years. you learn something new on this website every day.

actually stream they would need to look very hard to find a better photo of him. in fact that's the best one i've seen

biso100-you just demonstrated your stupidity for all to see. the only coverage of F1 in australia is the ITV coverage with brundle & allen & next year will be BBC with brundle & coulthard. just crawl back into your miserable box & dont speak until spoken to

i am disgusted even though i suspected this for a long time. how dare they give ferrari such a tiny bit extra when one considers the fact that without them there would be no F1. they should demand an extra $200M minimum each year or threaten to leave F1-then bernie would come crawling back very quickly

i'm sure ferrari could find a job for you somewhere rubens. may on the production line or testing their road cars?????

spot on salvano- but why do you need to tell the same story twice? gets boring the 2nd time. i agree the british have no sense of humour, luckily i'm now an australian citizen

sounds like you're starting to get worried about getting a seat for 09. with your talent you need to be worried. crawl back to the USA & you will probably get a job where many other losers before you have gone

biso100-sounds like you're jealous & for your info i've never played a computer game in my life. i was already too old when they were invented but my grandchildren have one.

next they will be voting ITV as the most popular TV station & ING as the best insurance company (if that's what they do).

how did Dr Coulthard work this one out? if this is the standard of his commentry i'll again be watching with the sound off as i did since ITV took over

he looks like he just got a shock from the KERS devise. aspire to join a good team that has KERS sorted & it wont be a handicap. that photo sure is a handicap for the F1 stud competition.

luca wants humble gentlemen, team players & talented drivers that dont cheat. so hamilton would not be under consideration ever at the scuderia.

i'm sure his mother will be intersted to know this but i cant think of anybody else.

seems the ferrari detractors conveniently forget they won vitually every constructors title & WDC for the past 10 years, & they will contine to do so.

of course you wouldn't luca & when your current drivers retire you will have dozens breaking your door down to get a drive with the most successful team in motor racing history. experinced ones like alonso & younger guns like vettel & kubica.

spot on luca- you already have the best pair of drivers in F1, so dont look any further afield

i know you're not ready yet rubens but the rest of us are

another cruel joke perpetrated by another british based institution. would you expect any different? he is a virtual unknown in australia so i can assure you nobody was asked done here. as schumi said many times that even he is unknown in USA so nobody would have heard on hamilton over there either.

if bernie goes to hockenheim we may never see him again so luca will get his wish. alternatively he may have arranged with the germans to wisk him away unnoticed.

the times are meaningless-there is no point publishing times at this time of the year especially when there are so many different permutations of things they are trying

can we have pictures of him without that ridiculous cap? if he moved do australia, the weather is so good, we dont need hats like that.

as the best driver in F1 it is only appropriate kimi is paid the most although alonso & filipe deserve nearly as much. then a huge drop to the rest who should just be paid by the points won. then with points deducted for arrogant comments, hamilton would be paying to drive.

cant they just ring him up instead? i fear if he goes there they wont let him come home. dont say you weren't warned.

well at least she looks better than her cousin. only time will tell if she can drive as fast

kimi's worth every penny they pay him. when he wins again in 09 they will want to increase his salary further. i would be willing to pay more for my next ferrari just to have him on board-same for filipe.

he deserves a PhD in the bleeding obvious. that is exactly what i've been saying since testing started. also what expectation do we have for vettel? -no wins next year is my prediction- he got lucky once & needs to move to a better team

bozo9700-we dont have youtube or google in australia so still never heard of sam hill

his main handicap is that all the technical data stolen from ferrari by mclaren in 07 wont be useful with the new regulations. he deserves to be worried

i wouldn't go there bernie-it's a trap. they hate medals over there so we will probably never see bernie again.

i used to go there in the old days when it was real track- to see clark racing/dying. nowadays it is too micky mouse & short.

i suppose its difficult for buemi to decide whether to go into F1 or become a male model. i cant make up my mind on that one

exactly what is the 'williams cause"? to never win another GP again maybe-very noble & welcomed by the tifosi

lets hope that is as far as he can count. if he goes any higher he's lost me.

too busy for that robbie04. i think i am the first person to ride a bike on australian soil because i've never seen one on the road. cant work out how they won so many gold medals though

no robbie04 i'm too busy trying out my new bike to get to the BBC. in any case i only get to england once a year for silverstone

you're right PF1 -nico should be committed for sticking with williams. they will be lucky to be on the grid in melb but i am looking forward to meeting mr parr if they do turn up.

a bit insensitive silverarrow as half my friends are south africans & you wont meet better people. such a relief from whinging poms. most of them never saw a lion until they went to the sydney zoo.

give up on them nico. they're well past their used by date. they were ok when your dad drove for them but if you want to win a GP try some other team. if you follow in your fathers footsteps you could win the WDC with only one victory matching your dad as the most underserving champion in history until hamilton came along

you're a bit slow bigrob-i've already done the buemi/kubica thing elsewhere on this site. please be original. with a name like that people will think you're my big brother-actually you probably are

well said outrungod-it's good to know there are others with real taste & dislike arrogance

he was 1st because ferrari wasn't there & other times ferrari were practicing for next year instead of showing off. they have decided their team for next year so can concentrate on the important work instead of auditioning for drivers.

to biso500. i think you mean farthing (not farthling). they were still coins when i grew up. also i said i drove an F1 car years ago -it was an ex Alboreto car so i was only in 40's. not difficult when not flat out. however when my friend drove it he said over radio "its easy to drive at 9/10th but at 10" & the radio went dead because he had crashed. i think he was going to say 10/10th

to biso1000-no i have never heard of sam hill -is that a stage name because he goes downHILL or his real name?

as i said before bclee28 i am half black & british but live in aust, & i dont believe the nonsense i write either, but it is in keeping with a bigoted pro hamilton website. i just give a bit of balance-i'm actually the same racial mix as hamilton & i'm sure he is a great guy.

sir jibby. i didn't mention hamilton but at least you know he must be the arrogant one-or maybe button?

buemi if you get in it will be touch and go between you & kubica in the glamour stakes

careful buemi-we dont want you taking the "most arrogant driver in F1" title from the british. they seemed to have that one secured til you came along

maybe coulthard can get button a job at the BBC-making the tea or something!!!!!!!

yes i presume the arrangement is mclaren will give way for glock to win one this year to repay for the last lap in brazil. thanks for your honesty trulli-real italian gentleman

to esdee -when i click onto all robsons posts i ony get one entry in september. i'm sure i've done more than one or maybe my internet is not working. for instance when i click esdee you have done 3 yet i've never heard of you.

since when did buemi become an F1 driver? he would want button as a team mate only to ensure he could beat him. actually i'd like to see hamilton as his teammate at STR if he gets there

whose genes is he talking about? maybe vettel is schumi love child. they seem a bit close for comfort & they speak the same language. i hope he is otherwise we have the wait till schumi's son mick is ready in about 12 years time.

to yellow. i dont think there are any cyclists in australia-we are a bit more advanced & drive cars. i've never seen one & i've been here for 50 years. maybe they ride around tracks somewhere but i dont see them on the road. if i did i'm sure i would run over them in my ferrari. actually i just found out we have also won cycling gold medals, to which i say -tell someone who cares

please get your story straight. i was about to rganise tickets-now you say its not on. what do i do?

he's good but needs to move to a top team like ferrari eventually to ever have a chance of being world champion

senna27- he'll be lucky to contest 5 or 6 more GPs let alone win any. at least patrese contested the most number of GPs till rubens came along. you left massa from the list-button would be no match for him in identical machinery either. there are just xenophobes still hanging around this site-they're fun but laughable at the same time.

australia has no interest in F1 so there are no aussie F1 sites, so i am forced to follow the british, italian & french sites. they are the only ones i understand.

thanks for telling me who hoy is. i didn't know cycling was an olympic event. australia has many triple gold medalists in the more important events like swimming with a population less than 1/3 of britain i might add.

thanks sgabriel -i'll try but it getting harder

coulthard always backs losers so why would he be any different now he's retired?

well said bannor. & biso9700 go back to school & learn to spell things like "convenience". you should call yourself biso4850 because you're a halfwit

very sneaky for PF1 to hide away the news that the germans won the ROC nations cup under a heading about DC & Loeb. i bet if the british had won it would have been a big headline especially if hamilton had been in it

you all miss the point. mclaren cheated in 07 because they were found to be in possession of ferrari technology. if the FIA had been fair they would have removed the points from the drivers, not only the team. that proves their bias. also if they had been fair they would have banned them for 08 as well which would mean hamilton would have been without a car. some eastern european athletes have lost gold medals years later when it was finally proved they cheated. this may also happen in F1 so dont say hamiltons 08 WDC will be the same forever.

happy to oblige biso9700 but i'm already 61. there are plenty of young guns who would drive cheaply to make a name for themselves.

the medal idea is so floored i am surprised it is getting any space. just forget this nonsense.

i suppose he didn't like to come 2nd to a bicycle again. twice in the same week would be too embarrassing. who is this hoy guy anyway? nobody has even heard of him in australia. still virtually nobody in australia has heard of hamilton either.

that's appropriate. same position as mclaren in 08 constructors title- i can see a theme developing here

to biso9700. most you said is true except i am not an ex F1 driver. i have driven an F1 car though (friend in ferrari club bought one years ago & i did a lap on philip island track).i dont hate F1-that why i travel to many races each year, but i dont like morons who know nothing about F1, but pretend to.

the only reason he wont work for ferrari is because ferrari wouldn't have him. they already have plenty of italians with real talent.

i'd say its nothing then in 09

if you find another team try to get one that suits your complexion. that green doesn't suit you.

well said ilAlfisto. i dont read what i say either. it is total rubbish befitting of this website. i find it hard to believe there are so many idiots that take it seriously.

maybe he knows something we dont know but he never impresses me

does PF1 ever take as breather from feeding us this nonsensical claptrap?

sato will only get in if he brings money, especially in these tough times

tell someone who cares

i dont need to prove cheating. it was proved in a court of law & they copped a US$100M fine, the largest in the history of any sport. the fact they didn't appeal says it all -they knew they were sprung. the only mistake the FIA made was allowing these cheats back in 08. that was only because the FIA is so pro british ferrari doesn't get a fair go.

you have so far & i cant see anything in the new regs that will make things better

what's the point of nominating a test driver if testing is banned? on race day they will use their drivers. liuzzi is just a reserve driver in reality

i cant believe there are so many morons that actually get sucked into my comments. why dont you try to comment on the article & not those that write in?

yes autosport is quite correct & furthermore even under the proposed medal system filipe would also be champion because he won more races. without the things totally out of his control filipe, would have won by a far greater margin under any system.

i'm sure he's always got his hands on something.

they may as well give one to south africa but nobody will come to watch with the latest raft of changes.

darwins theory of evolution works in nature-it will also work in F1. there is no need to make such drastic changes which will reduce the spectacle no matter what they claim. only yesterday i spent 670euro for a 09 monaco GP ticket & a further $10,000 for travel, etc. if F1 is reduced to what it appears this will be the last time.

they can change all the rules & specs but i'm sure mclaren will find a way to cheat as they did in the past when they copped a US$100M fine. but hopefully it will still allow the real race drivers like kimi, filipe, vettel & alonso to shine.

well said stream- of course filipe is the most deserving to be champion by almost any measure. that doesn't even take into account the fact that mclaren stole ferrari technology but was allowed back in 08 & the hamilton cheating tactics.

do you STR supporters honestly believe these results have any bearing on performance for next year? if so you are totally deluded. as filipe said, ferrari haven't even finished their 09 car.

hamilton are you that stupid? do you even have a drivers licence? even with a standard engine you engage first gear & you will move forward. god, even my youngest daughter who just got her licence knows that much. its just with a ferrari engine you move forward quicker.

yes i will see you in melb mr parr but i doubt most of you miserable poms that read this site will make the effort to come to the greatest country on earth.

i wonder if the guy that shoots bernies plan down also hits the one that proposed the plan as well. a case of killing at least 2 birds with the one stone.

i agree with bernie. i've forgotten honda already.

an old trick to try & suck in some new sponsors. i would have thought most would have seen this scam before & run a mile.

yeah well what does that prove? simply that STR can run on fumes in an old spec car. they would be better advised to spend time preparing for next year especially since testing will be curtailed.

what is wrong with spending a bit extra on wheel nuts? think of the families of the workers that slave away in USA to make those nuts. without those nuts in europe buying their nuts they may all be out on the street starving. i think F1 is doing great community service.

you will never stamp out this extreme fine tuning for wealthy team so dont both trying. the less wealthy teams will just have to get used to being midfield or below. it's like being british-you just get used to being a loser.

since mosley is an "utterly pointless' improvement to the FIA, why is he still there?

imagine how silly alonso would have looked if he had just signed up for honda! i suppose he would have walked away with a lot of money & crawled back to renault. they always seem ready to take back their prodical son.

if honda are silly enough to have an obligation to pay button 24m pounds they desrve to go under. his salary is the biggest waste of money in F1. they could have got a hot young gun for a fraction of that. maybe if they had been more careful with their money they could still be in F1

if that is what honda meant when they pulled out, why didn't they say so. sounds more like a sales pitch than reality. they need to put $ on meaning of assist

meaningless until we know what 09 components & tyres were being used & fuel levels. also were times set in wet, dry or damp? why bother with an article that lacks all details?

sounds like he hasn't got a clue what is going on. since this is normal, why is this news?

words from a wise man. it will be all over next year well before the final round

even if there is a tiny bit of truth in this alonso will be offering himself to ferrari free of charge. even then they should not take him. ferrari have become the most successful team in the world without him & can continue to perform at that level without him

dont worry stefano. i'm a fan & i'm calm confident that you can deliver another constructors title next year. now mclaren will not have advantage of useful ferrari technology next year it should allow ferrari to win the WDC as well, unless mclaren work out a different way to cheat next year.

good on you stefano - a true sage amongst all the nonsense. i think all the poorly funded teams should drop out now -we dont need you. if you cant stand the heat -get out of the (i've forgotten what)

the show effectively went on without honda so far so why will 09 be any different?

if you're going to be on the grid next year in melb button, what will you be doing? will it be as a flag marshal, driving ther pace car or in the celebrity race?

any move that puts button out of work is a job well done. congratulations honda. now if mclaren would follow suit we could get back to fair racing again

can F1 "incentivise" dennis with anything that will make him disappear? i would have thought the $100M fine would have done the trick but he's still there.

i hope you're right summerarse but i doubt it

if he could tour every dept at the factory in half an hour, as he claims, there couldn't be many of them left. i thought there used to be 670 of them.

excuse me while i vomit

if bernie wants 10 teams & since he has made so much from F1 why doesn't he buy honda team & concentrate on that rather than f..king up F1? after all he has been a successful team owner before. maybe max could chip in as well

the only way forward is for bernie to give up some or most of his obscene profits & let them go to the teams.

at least the honda debacle has had one good side effect-it has kept hamilton out of every article. does he still exist or has he vanished in a finnish backwater?

since it is claimed honda has given support up to melb, if i was a buyer i would sit back & see if the car can live up to all the hype. or at least there should be a back out clause for the buyer till after melb.

at least with luca as boss of FOTA good things will be done for F1. his highest priority should be to get more money for the teams & less in bernie's pocket. however it must always be divided up by merit so ferrari will end up with the most.

button & webber are both overrated & both use the excuse that it is always someones elses fault or bad luck for their lack of success. both are over the hill & will be beaten by the young guns like vettel.

maybe ferrari should buy them as a junior team & jointly get the best technical people from both teams to develop KERS further, but have them as a slimmed down operation. there must be economies of scale in much the same way as red bull & STR. however in that case i cannot understand the stupidity of running different engines.

if he's so good at making the impossible possible how come he couldn't make his marriage work. did he incentivise his wife to stay with him but she left anyway? also if he runs mclaren as well as he claims, how come it took nearly 10 years for him to win either championship once?

button can bring any team down to mediocrity & i think STR deserve better-the need younger drivers than button for a start.

they are putting on a brave face but the reality is they know the 09 car is not competitive & are bowing out gracefully. good luck if they find a bunny to takeover this outfit. they need a new CEO & drivers for a start.

a real glutton for punishment. why spend a fortune to verify you are hopeless? certainly not doing your sales any good because most toyota drivers dont relate to high performance cars. leave F1 to the sports car manufacturers

the only teams that should be allowed in F1 are those that make true sports cars for the road. come to think of then only ferrari would be allowed to compete, so maybe slacken up a bit to include BMW, MB, Aston & Lambo (Volkswagen). most corolla drivers wouldn't know who drove for toyota F1 - most wouldn't even know what F1 was & if they did know they wouldn't care. we dont want teams in F1 that make cars for the masses. & dont accuse me of bias because i also own a toyota, but also have MB & ferrari

it would be fun to see button in an STR to further demonstrate his mediocrity. could he win a GP like vettel? i dont think so because vettel has talent

if honda want to "separate the wheat from the chaff" the first to go should be fry. now they are so stupid they put him in charge of finding a buyer at the best price. i'm glad i dont have shares in honda if that's the best they can come up with

to biso9700 why bring australia or webber into argument? there is very little interest in F1 in australia so i am surprised they have ever had a champion. webber is barely known by average australian & is never rated highly in the press. also we have a very small population & have punched above our weight in most sports- even the ones we dont follow. aust does not deserve to hold a GP & if govn loses too much money there soon wont be.

i bet renault is the next to go. that means alonso could be looking for a drive in 09. surely these drivers on contract can demand payment so they will be financially secure.

yeah mosley may be right. i would like to see only ferrari surviving-the only team deserving of F1 status

stay committed-see if anyone cares. you will never win a GP let alone a championship

please stay positive. that will protect you from the reality that your F1 career is over. however it should have been over 8 years ago. lets face it you're a journeyman

dave richards & honda deserve each other. may they sink in a cloud of smoke, so i hope he gets lumbered with it. its overpriced at any price but someone will fall for it. only the british would be silly enough to see the honda team as a bargain.

button -you got what you deserved. its funny how he trampled on teams to get to honda & now they dump him.

who can take up this offer except mid to back markers like williams, who will then surely slip further down the field? i cant imagine teams like STR or force india taking up the offer because they are B teams for the front runners. it may drag in a couple more back marker teams to fill up the grid but it wont improve the racing

yes the show must go on but can it go on without you & max please?

he should apologise to button for being so stupid to employ him as a driver in the first place. only the british think he has talent. reality is he is a very mediocre driver. oh well, it seems the british drivers on the f1 grid are dropping like flies & i'm loving it. & brawn we dont need you at ferrari-they proved they can win without him, winning 3 out of 4 titles since he left against none out of last 4 while he was there.

they may save it but as a low budget team they have no chance of winning in the forseeable future, meaning that buttons' career is effectively over, with just one win. rem the crap spoken when he had that win, that now he has the taste for it other wins will surely follow-well they didn't

if they were slow spending 217m pounds, imagine how slow they would be spending 50m pounds. at least this will be the end of fry-the most pretentious f1 team boss on the grid & the least deserving.

how can they get a decent price in this climate? if the car is as good as they claim they would be better to start the season, show their speed & their business would be much more saleable as a going concern. i think they already know the car is slow & dont want to show it to the world. as i have said before brawn only looked good at ferrari because he was surrounded by such talent. he doesn't have that luxury at honda. he could probably get a job back at ferrari but in a lowly position & work his way up.

i love it. gone from 3 brits in 08, down to one in 09, who chooses to live in switzerland anyway. if MB also quit we are down to none, but still one australian in F1.

i imagine toyota will be the next manufacturer to go because they have won nothing for all their trying. i would love MB to also pull the plug. that would surely wipe the stupid grin off hamiltons face.

ferrari27-so what? australia has no real interest in F1-we are a tiny population & it is incredible what australians have achieved in many sports with those restrictions. how many GPs would he need to win to beat that of a german (a country of similar population to britain)?

pedro- the only thing you need to learn is that your F1 driving days are over-move on

surely a whinger like pantano is actually a briton disguised as an italian.

granty1975-how can stewart & STR getting lucky once compare to the exploits of brabham as team owner?

to be the best in england wouldn't take much talent

there are dozens of other journeymen who have been dumped from F1. just admit it-time has run out for you.

no summerarse i never said australians rule F1 yet ferrari engineers like dyer come from ballarat which was in australia when i last drove thru it. also brabham was based in britain to be close to the racing but the repco engine that powered it was made in melbourne. also stoddart comes from coburg which is also in melbourne

maybe willis doesn't understand KERS very well, which does not auger well for their drivers in 09. i'm sure ferraris will be able to overtake on the odd occasion they are not already leading the race & of course lapping cars is easy with or without KERS. unfortunately red bull wont be in that position

i wouldn't have thought any car is much fun near the back of the field where you belong

chylout you idiot. stoddard didn't have the money to take minardi to the next level, whereas berger was backed by a billionaire with STR. also i was only comparing drivers that became team owners & i dont recall stoddard driving an F1 car but have no doubt if he had would have been more than competitive with hamilton in identical machinery.

i'm glad you got out berger. all the ex drivers like prost, stewart & fittipaldi have been failures as team owners & i'm sure they lost money over it. at least berger got out with a win as team owner which is more than we can say about the others (except brabham), but then australians are exceptional & should not be confused with austrians

for renault to be successful flav would need to steal half the ferrari team (which is not going to happen). they just got very lucky late last season so it gave them false optimism.

he seems to have his head screwed on right. prost, like vettel, dreams of driving for ferrari. seems like it's the most coveted team-i'm sure hamilton will come crawling to them as well when the wheels fall off mclaren just like nicholas prost's father did.

lets hope he disappears without trace somewhere in the icy back blocks of finland so we can get back to decent racing with fair minded drivers again.

compared to toyota they have achieved a lot but they got lucky in canada, so i doubt it will be an improving trend.

its good know that people that know schumi DONT find him arrogant. i'm sure vettel wont be either which will make a refreshing change from the current champion. its also good to know that young drivers like vettel covet driving a ferrari as much as double world champions like alonso. seems the only anti ferrari people are a few whinging poms that this site encourages

maybe rubens you have found your niche. you may as well stick with it because you have blown your chances at STR

F1_freak_666 - i couldn't have put it better myself

they can win without him so why put up with all the drama?

razta-dont get carried away. this time is nowhere near the lap record of fiorano

it is a measure of the enormous respect & prestige that sponsors & drivers hold for ferrari that they line up to be part of the team. bernie & co had better also respect them because without them there is no F1.

why doesn't hamilton front up. scared of getting beaten in identical equipment.

he may as well say that because he would need real talent to break that record & that is what he lacks. he just got lucky because ferrari had some reliability issues together with bad luck. otherwise he would have struggled to be a distant third.

after what he has just said about ferrari he has no hope

problem with this system is if driver can see they are not going to get top 3 spot they will tend to put the car away & save it for the next race especially if engine or gearbox are getting tired. so we will get thin fields & boring races-the reverse of what they are seeking

i dont like him hanging out the dirty linen for all to see apart from fact it may not be true. he can kiss goodbye a chance at STR now.

oh yeah -tell me another one

the only person who should get a gold medal next year is bernie for stuffing up F1

this is refreshing after all the hamilton hype. it should always be for others to judge.

i guess he comes with money. although i cant see who they can put with him with experience because barrichello is not possible especially after what he has said about ferrari. he has shot himself in the foot unless he stays with honda.

next bernie will be suggesting beckham become the ferrari team manager. bernie, just concentrate on your divorce & let the italians work things out at the scuderia.

this is not valid f1 news. please move on

"bazil168" you're a dead set wanker. i am australian too but a realist. webber is only a middle ranking driver & has no hope of winning next year (he will be lucky to beat his team mate)

change for the sake of change-a waste of effort when there are more important things to focus on

well your times certainly didn't indicate that

bernie -choose someone leggier & younger next time so you look even more stupid

why would he even consider such a difficult job after achieving so much. far better to remain a consultant

if you think the car is ugly-maybe it suits the drivers

senna could make an ordinary car like lotus & toleman punch above its weight. hamilton cant be compared because he joined a front running team.

he's starting to sound like coulthard & we all know what happened to him once he was not in a top team

its always been that way so why state the obvious?

rossi-you're dreaming. badoer is much slower than the F1 drivers so it does not look promising.

at least by getting an unknown driver when the car turns out to be hopeless brawn can blame the driver & he comes out smelling of roses. well thought out plan.

i meant red bull not TR

hamilton-get a life

typical TR-just pretending to be quick by using the 08 spec & probably running on fumes. why dont they practice for next year instead of showing off?

no summerarse it doesn't clear things up. is a drag queens slower down the straights because of the frilly dresses they tend to wear? also how do they get around corners?

of course he is right & it should be made retrospective so massa becomes world champion for 08

if de la rosa gets into force india i dont think he will be doing too much overtaking. more like being overtaken.

speednuts-the 2 dictators have something else in common-they are both british. get rid of all british from the sport & leave the running of F1 to the italians & at least they are passionate about F1 & if the FIA were also replaced by italians we would get a fairer system.

BMW should give mclaren a fight but ferrari will have it wrapped up with a few races to go in 09. without a bad batch of pistons & the singapore saga they would have done so in 08 as well. problem with BMW is heifield is possibly past his use by date (like hamilton).

i watched a recent GP on TV in Iceland & the coverage there was superior to ITVs even though i didn't understand a word they were saying. surely the BBC cant be even worse than ITV.

summerarse -you just cant face facts. ferrari win almost everything for more than a decade- there is no team in any major sport anywhere in the world who is so successful. we tifosi are more than satisfied

i'm sure this will change again before the race is scheduled to run

if he is that good unmotivated, imagine what he will be like next year when he is fired up! if his race was not destroyed in canada by the most evil driver of the decade he would have almost certainly won the championship. that incident destroyed him together with all the points he lost

nico -you are too good to stay at such a crap team- find something better before your career is over with no wins. williams time is up.

summerarse- as i remember when brawn was last at ferrari they won neither championship but after he left they immediately won with french & italian personnel, finnish driver & australian race engineer. yes the british teams try but the italian one wins more than all the british ones combined over past decade. i suppose that is why when you win something after so many years you all get excited -you epitomise all that is bad about britain -in fact your whinging attitude proves that you are one. lets see what brawn, fry & button can do at honda because in 09 there wont be any more excuses. i can confidently start laughing already.

the TR success is entiely due to the talented vettel combined with the ferrari engine-it has nothing much to do with Tost

oh you britsh. where do you think up headlines as funny as that?

it's good to see all those hopefuls are not british, meaning one day we look forward to an all non british grid. obviously the team owners are looking for the most talented they can find, so it's not suprising.

schumi remains the best driver of all time but should not push his luck in such a dangerous sport as bike racing especially at his age.

"summarse" we won more WDCs & WCCs without schumi than with him, so i dont know what you're on but it wont be legal.

brawn basked in reflected glory at ferrari because he was surrounged by so many brilliant personnel. he is all at sea at honda pulled down in a quagmire of (mostly british) mediocrity.

i cant believe slavica put up with him for so long. maybe the money had something to do with it

this meglamaniac is one of many that gives britain a bad name. can he be pensioned off or something?

they will all need as much practice as they can get to catch ferrari next year.

seems only a few understand situation. fact is rubens would be long gone had it not been for ferrari & schumi. if it is true he left ferrari of his own accord it has got to be the worst move in F1 history. why leave the best team for an unknown quanity even if the money was better? if he had stayed at ferrari he would surely have got more wins before he got kicked out. if he ever writes i wont be buying a copy.

there is going to be a lot of egg on a lot of faces when honda is again a backmarker in 09. the first to go should be fry, then brawn, then button. they all have something in common

he should immediately be appointed the professor of the bleeding obvious

hang on minute irvine-you say "world is full of people who like black & white". what about people like me (& hamilton) who are half black & half white?

"mrniceguy" i think 'mrsmoron" is more suitable. why would you want to keep ferrari off the top step? if that happened there is no longer F1 but a parade of kit cars.

who cares? there are plenty more to take its place & ferrari will win on any track so it makes no difference.

rubens -quit while you're ahead. actually you're not ahead are you, so quit anyway before you are pensioned off

i'd say its bust then

the stig is hamiltons mother-what else would he say?

i would have thought the winner would be from the team that won the WCC not one that got lucky in the wet at monza. & without a ferrari engine they would be nowhere.

maybe he could get a few tips from anthony hamilton

honda should be reviewing fry's contract instead of worrying about button. they need to get a competitive car first then think about drivers

you have a very bad memory "summerarse" & in your case its probably incurable

strong but not strong enough. should manage 2nd after ferrari though

luca is always right so if he said this then it is correct. they have tried everything to penalise ferrari-rem when schumi was unbeatable they changed the point system to downgrade wins. if that had not been done filipe would be WDC. anyway they still won the main event-WCC -as a ferrari owner that's what we want

when i read that headline i thought thats what glock got paid for the last lap-god they must have been desperate

i bet its been a good year for glock. i wonder how much he got paid for the last lap?

"dwalrus" we australians dont accept knighthoods for about past 20 years. thank god-less to do with britain the better. by all means knight hamilton -another useless trinket.

it's not fair unless ferrari gets nearly all the pie because without them nobody would watch or go (except a few whinging poms to windswept silverstone). the rest should get the remaining scraps, except mclaren should not get any for about 5 years after we can be sure they no longer cheat.

webber should have been under pressure before. is he saying coulthard was not as good as vettel? i think so. this will not be step to showcase vettel's talent. he was lucky to win in monza & red bull will not be quick enough to get wins on merit with an inferior engine to what he had in 08. he should be back going to BMW to replace heidfield.

opposite is true "summerarse". Luca is so sporty he feels embarrassed that if it becomes legal in 09 ferrari will have won the championship about 6 races from the end.

i'm starting to think that robson & F1_freak_666 are the same person, because there cant be that many rhodes scholarships awarded in any one year. if not i bet we are related

"growler20" the only reason mclaren have been competitive for the past 2 years is because they cheated (& copped a $100M fine) but because of rule changes next year they hopefully have not again stolen ferrari blueprints- they are on their own. oh, i changed your name because you are a halfwit.

is "idiot" your first name or surname? maybe both.

i have a great idea. why dont force india & mclaren swap drivers in 09? then the truth will be revealed

F1 will not progress with restrictions like this

i am sure if you ask all the midfield runners the same question they would all target a top 6. is this news? i hope he came up with more convincing arguments to get rehired.

the other way they can grow is to continue to steal other teams technology. that's one thing they excell at

some of you morons have very short or selective memories. i seem to rem mclaren getting a US$100M fine (the largest fine in sporting history for any sport) & you still have respect for them & the drivers who benefited from their cheating. the FIA should have done what they originally threatened & banned them for this year as well. however they knew if they did that there would be no worthwhile competition so they let them run, but that doesn't alter the fact they still had full knowledge for all ferrari plans. If the FIA had done the right thing, luca wouldn't need to buy a new TV.

we may not have to wait long till hamilton is driving a bad car now the rules change for 09 so mclaren wont have advantage for all the relevant ferrari plans.

he knew better than anybody what was involved in doing the job well, so he wisely declined. he also knew they had very capable people like stefano so he only needed to have a casual consulting role. it has clearly worked as they have won both WCC's since he stopped driving.

yawn!!!!!!!! can we have some real F1 news instead of these sideshows? rossi is lucky to be able to have such fun but it is not newsworthy.

what's it matter-neither will be collecting many more in next few seasons, so dont draw up plans for extensions to the trophy room.

pity he didn't break it over the heads of the officials that failed to penalise hamilton sufficiently during the season for his appalling tactics. the WDC was not lost entirely because of brazil but at earlier GPs like hamilton's tactics in canada. furthermore he should not have needed to be stressed because mclaren should not have been in the 08 series because of their cheating in 07. oh well he can look forward to dominating next year when new rules will allow a more level playing field.

if that was the case why did rubens score nearly 4 times the number of points this season in the same car-typical whinging pom. also i guarantee vettel would have massively outscored both of them in the same machinery

can we have some real news? otherwise would prefer nothing.

i dont know what planet "ektoros" lives on but can PF1 please not print illegible garbage or at least provide a translation into english?

"brucetravis" couldn't put it better myself. the only people who dont take this site as a joke are dimwitted hamilton fans so why not make it a fan club website?

actually we hope that his contract binds him to mclaren for his whole career so when mclaren drop to midfield (as will inevitably happen) he will drop out of the picture. rem a great driver can lift a car up the grid like senna did with toleman, schumi did with ferrari in the early days & vettel is doing with toro rosso.

"richardW' jealosy is a curse. i cannot believe that most users on this website are unmitigated losers, so cant imagine anybody else being successful.

dream on heikki. there are 2 problems- mclaren will only concentrate on hamilton & they wont be competitive anyway. look elsewhere like so many before you have done.

well said "brucetravis". only problem when he is the forgotten one in the near future they will need to change the name again

button are you scared they might employe someone that can really show you up? rubens did a pretty good job in that regard last season but at least you know he is old & possibly past used by date next year.

this is pathetic. if there is absolutely no news why serve up this garbage? just close down till next season if this is the best you can do.

"idiot' you have a very suitable name- how did your parents know you would turn out that way when they christened you? i have never watched game of rugby in my life but thanks for the useless info & i have never drunk beer, & after your description i wont start now at the age of 61.

"lionel" i have owned 2 MBs & as i said they are boring runabouts. the only true cars i ahve owned are ferrair

"lionel" you show you know nothing about f1. the reason they moved is because ferrari would not supply all the gear they need-only the engine

"petefrombristol" fanatics are called tifosi not tifoso you moron, & they can come from anywhere. i have sat with hordes of italians at Monza & with the ferrari club at many other GPs & we are accepted everywhere. even you could join if you had the passion. i note no GP set down for bristol next year unlike melbourne. wonder why?

"robbie04" at his age (38 years ago) i had more girlfriends than you could point a very long stick at. what about you? i changed your name because you are half the guy you think you are.

"race" what has the shape of coulthards head got to do with racism? hope your're not having a go at the scots because my mother is from the isle of skye.

when i read the headline i thought hamilton was going to have a baby, but then found out it was just more boring non news.

problem is those 2 will probably pop up somewhere else. do they ever give up?-mike, the world has moved on.

he would be too scared to face competition in identical machinery & without dennis giving him advantages over fellow drivers. that is a level playing field where incidently heikki won a few years ago. of well, at least they would allow him to cry on his dads shoulder

if they get the full package it should occasionally lift them off the back of the grid but not much further

"beniah' -without trying to be patriotic i would say webber has been in the wrong team at the wrong time. put him in a good car & he would show himself to good effect. he is no jack brabham though. to "clyout" -i am 61 so have personally witnessed all the drivers you mention so i dont know what your point is. in fact i went to the 1956 australian GP at albert park when it was not part of the world championship (& they drove anti clockwise in those days) & saw many of those drivers including moss. most of the ones you mentioned also drove in the Tasman Cup series in the 60's which i attended & met graham hill for the first time - now he was a gentleman.

"beniah" - i couldn't put it better myself. about time PF1 let another point of view get posted. to otis_dsouza- you conveniently forget that in spite of mclaren working against fernando in 07 he still only lost on a countback. for hamilton to beat alonso in superior machinery in 08 is meaningless.

they dont need new drivers. they need engineers to make the car competitive & only then should they look for drivers

i hope they try out davidson as well as sato. i predict davidson will be faster. please give bourdais another chance.

Being a half black person myself i find it absolutely disgusting that skin color is even being mentioned in F1 & on this website. until recently i didn't even realise hamilton is actually similar to me -ie half black & british born. i cannot believe hamilton even thinks about his color- i certainly dont- it has never been a problem for me; in fact an advantage in such a hot country as australia & i am certain he would only see it as an advantage for what he does. the only time in my life i have ever copped abuse is on this website. even so i am still a ferrari supporter & have owned many of their fabulous cars since 1978. it would be cool if one day a colored person was driving for ferrari but we want humble gentlemen so hamilton need not apply. as for bernie- he need not apply either even though i have nothing against white people.

weemac2000- i would add brabham & stewart to the list of greats but definitely not the others. eg hunt got lucky with lauda in 76 & won by a point in much the same way as hamilton this year. ferrari have been unlucky on more than this occasion. moss would be the most overrated but hamilton will possibly take that crown. a measure of greatness is how good you are compared to your teammate also with regard to your machinery.

growler40-try to say something original but in any case dont copy me. try commenting on F1 instead

thank god for that. we dont want riff raff besmirching the ferrari name

to "robbie08" i dont care who is biased against ferrari. i just happen to have bought many of their cars over the past 30 years & find them the most exciting cars on earth. why dont you save up & try to get one. incidently i also own MB & i find them boring runabouts. you just cant accept that mclaren are cheats & so are undeserving for 08. since the rules change for 09 their car will be valid & see what happens when they dont have ferrari blueprints. it is irrelevant how they got them. to I_Say_Chaps thanks for agreeing with me except for 2 points. firstly i am australian but were born in britain & 2ndly i read hamilton likes australia.

well said stefano-he is spot on as usual. however always the diplomat he failed to mention the FIA decisions that went against ferrari this year, apart from fact that mclaren should not have been in championship this year due to their cheating in 07

i think PF1 should publish more balanced comments like prieslysabbath instead of all the pro hamilton garbage. problem is the vast majority of real F1 fanatics dont speak english that is why this website is totally unbalanced

hamilton-correct racist abuse is not a joke, but you are. incidently 'summerarse" we dont get the UK sports hero telecast over here thank god so i wont be watching.

wake up my boy. it's true you did win fairly & squarely and while you were asleep there were some dreadful comments made about you in certain quarters but i dealt with them. now enjoy it while it last because it wont last much longer.

campaigners please lighten up-oh sorry that is probably racist

campaigners please lighten up-oh sorry that is probably racist

there might be light at the end of the tunnel at honda but alas you wont reach it before your time is up. join a more competitive team before you can only drive as fast as hamilton.

webber will never be one of the greats but is still more skillful than hamilton but has not been lucky enough to get into a top team & possibly time is running out for him. you are probably too young or too stupid to know sir jack (our greatest driver)

we australians have such high standards we cant possibly respect hamilton at this stage. when he has matched sir jack brabham by building his own car & winning the world championship in it (plus 2 other WDC, plus one other WCC) then he will gain our respect. i think he should build himself a car for 09 over the holidays & see if he can match "black jack". his father could help because he hangs around the pits so much he is clearly looking for work. also that girlfriend could also muck in between screetching engagements & they should have it ready for the australian GP next march. oh & he should attend etiquette lessons to learn to be a gentleman like sir jack.

oh no he likes australia. please somebody talk him out of coming to live here even in 10 years time. we are just simple humble people that want to be left alone.

we australians have such high standards we cant possibly respect hamilton at this stage. when he has matched sir jack brabham by building his own car & winning the world championship in it (plus 2 other WDC, plus one other WCC) then he will gain our respect. i think he should build himself a car for 09 over the holidays & see if can match "black jack". his father could help because he hangs around the pits so much he is clearly looking for work. also that girlfriend could also muck in between screetching engagements & they should have it ready for the australian GP next march. oh & he should attend etiquette lessons to learn to be a gentleman like sir jack.

"watchcam" shows the moronic standard of average PF1 reader who thinks eddie jordan is the same person as eddie irvine. i know they are both irish but one couldn't even fit into an F1 car. come to think of it the other cant probably now either, so maybe they are the same person now after all. if they turn out to be the same person i will be happy to admit i was wrong. actually "watchcam" you are right about one thing- they BOTH know more about F1 than you

what twisted logic to even suggest such a thing. alonso would not support mclaren or hamilton at any stage next year. kimi will leave when he tires of F1 & until that day he will be at ferrari. a ferrari driver will definitely win WDC next year & alonso will need to wait until a seat comes available, most likely in 2011. speaking italian has never been a reason to be employed at ferrari; in fact neither race engineer can speak fluent italian so it is more useful to speak english.

brawn should spend all his waking hours trying to make his own car go faster than commenting on other drivers. hamilton has been very lucky to have alonso in a renault this year & some bad luck & reliabiltiy at ferrari. when things get back to normal next year hamilton will be lost in the crowd, possibly with BMW ahead as well.

to "peterson" you total moron, i am 61 & have a PhD in astrophysics & understand F1 better than most. problem is you have nothing to say about F1 & dont know your facts so you attack those that write serious comments. i dont hate hamilton-he is an average driver that got very lucky by getting into a top team & got even luckier on the last lap of the last GP for reasons we dont understand.

its amazing that bernie is ridiculed in britain but when he says something that supports the deranged hamilton supporters he suddenly makes sense. at least try to be consistent.

if he keeps taking her to things as exciting as stevenage he will soon be looking for a new girlfriend. anyway it wouldn't have lasted in any case.

if you need any more proof that the rule makers are in bed with the kit cars think back to when schumi was unbeatable so they conveniently changed the scoring system to downgrade what a win is worth. if the original system was in place massa would be WDC this year.

the truth always hurts which would explain all the childish comments attacking me. try reading the foreign websites if you want to know what F1 is about, instead of all this biased crap on the british websites. fact is the WCC is the one which ferrari wanted to win for the 16th time & they did it in spite of the FIA & mclaren.

whilst hamilton would never be allowed to join ferrari eddie is right that until you have joined the ultimate F1 team you have achieved nothing. that is why every great driver except senna have gone there. senna would have gone there if he had lived long enough. ok piquet may be the one exception but ferrari were going thru a bad time then.

what a stupid comment from yet another englishman. if he looks at the facts how many F1 champions come back the next year even stronger & win next time out? answer - virtually none. he is thinking back to the schumi & alonso days when we had exceptional talent. think back to rosberg, damon hill, scheckter, jones etc. even lauda couldn't pull it off in consecutive years. even kimi couldn't do it & he has more talent in his little finger than all the british drivers combined.

eddie- you knew how to drive -you were the best english speaker driver for the past 20 years but you're a bit off the track here. ferrari wouldn't have hamilton if he came there begging to drive for nothing. firstly they only employ humble gentlemen & secondly they have 2 great drivers already & alonso waiting in the wings

i find it incredible the number of posts attacking me for speaking the truth. the problem with the british is they so rarely get a champion in any sport they are blinkered & cant see that this particular one got there by cheating & was lucky enough to get away with it due partly to the slackness of the FIA & partly luck. at least they didn't win the WCC which is the most important one for manufacturers. also why did the british invent so many sports they are no good at? eg golf & cricket (tennis i'm no sure about but they're no good at that either)

what else would he say so why bother putting it on a website? why dont you ask stefano & you can have a matching headline but that wouldn't be PF1's style would it? also if dennis actually said that they have made it quite clear what they plan for heikki. he should start looking elsewhere like so many have done before him.

his only challenge for next year will be filipe. next year will be back to the heady days of schumi at his best. we will have forgotten hamilton by mid season

sounds like an exciting night out. did his dad come with him?

bernie is right hamilton is not hated because of race or color. he is hated because of his attitude to other drivers on the track. when that changes he may get some respect but its probalbly already too late i like bernies last line though. i remember a driver in 6th place during part of the last lap of the last race & contrary to what bernie said there has been more written than any other event for the whole year.

"senna27" you're an idiot. i have owned many ferrari's since 1978 (currently a 430F1) & i can assure they are the greatest road car on earth. i think you're saying you dont want one because you cant afford it. i get that said often & its always the same reason. luca heads the greatest car company the world has ever known.

i hope the new system becomes fairer so cheats like hamilton are banned for things like spa & canada. the penalties in 08 were pathetic. no wonder he thinks he can get away with it, unless mclaren have special influence which we will never know.

the tifosi dont care when it is on. look at the stats-we normally win & will continue to do so

hey "chylout" you bimbo. did you ever think we in australia are awake when you are asleep so that may explain why my comments are earlier? even so your 3rd theory is possibly correct. if you could translate foreign websites (clearly not possible for bimbos) then you would understand my comments are mainstream. besides schumi, kimi & alonso can manage to win championships without their dads hanging around. maybe they haven't told their fathers what they do like senna & lauda in their early days.

did anybody tell this deluded driver mclaren is NOT the best team or car? that is clearly the team that wins the WCC which mclaren have not won for 10 years but ferrari has won 8 out of 10. if he is that deluded he should not be allowed to drive (at least on public roads). still he is a lucky driver so might avoid accidents.

at least its not a kit car like mclaren. next year they should halve the points awarded to all kit cars to encourage more pure race cars on the grid. this should get rid of a lot of riff raff.

what rubbish saying alonso's committment for 2 years confirms his faith in renault. truth is there were no better options & 2 years is because he is waiting for a seat at ferrari. join the real world. piquet deserves another chance but only one year to prove himself.

sorry guys. somebody just told me hamilton is black. i had never noticed before because i always switch off or turn off when non ferrari people on telecast. i love eveything black including my wife so i will support him as much as i can from now on, if he behaves himself. i retract everything i ever said about him but the problem is he drives for the wrong team.

of course "pnf963" you are correct. there are team arrangements in this sport & your 1997 example is just one one them. i know you dont need to be a rocket scientist to know this because i am one. to others i dont need to degrade hamiltons championship-just read the foreign websites. oh no sorry i forget you're british so would be too illiterate for that.

i would go a step further than luca. driver should get double points if using a ferrari engine. this would cut out some of the mobile chicanes gracing the grids at the moment. & at least one point for pole & fastests lap.

filipe is a true gentleman but of course he wont reaveal his true feelings. he knows the truth about the last lap but doesn't want to rock the boat because nothing can be done about it now. he will get his revenge next year though

i read headlines with interest-lewis i'm not going anywhere". does that mean he will remain in switzerland to keep away from those miserable whinging british? i dont blame him -i did the same but migrated to australia instead so i could get even further away.

to all the hamilton crawlers ( i imagine british) -the truth hurts. you all know he is undeserving but you put on a brave face anyway. if you have any doubts try reading some of the spanish, italian & brazillian websites to find out what real enthusiasts think.

well said nick towsey-my sentiments exactly. its wonder PF1 ever published it. better still he is a fellow countryman -obviously air is clearer in australia so we see things better.

to "headshed" are you brain dead? button won in a 2nd rate car but hamilton won in the 2nd best car on the grid so their feats are incomparable.

he drove worse this year than last. this is clearly a trend so he should vanish without a trace in 09 like some other undeserving champions eg rosberg & damon hill

to "slodriver" you moron, do you believe what is written in the press? clearly yes. alonso was handicapped at mclaren because dennis was hellbent on promoting his useless protege at the expense of a true superstar. if that were not true alonso would have stayed put because he knew mclaren was a better package than renault. even now thru his billiance he has scored more points that anyone in the latter part of the season because he has found least 0.6sec a lap for renault. by contrast hamilton could not develop a shopping trolley.

to be great you have to prove yourself in lesser teams like schumi did with benneton & senna did with toleman then lotus. even kimi & filipe with sauber. his victory is meaningless until he can show what he do in force india or honda.

bernie is british so it is a meaningless comment. however he seems to raise doubt about glock-very perceptive

i think anthony is a disgrace pushing his son into such a dangerous sport. he should be ashamed of himself when he could have been encouraged into safe sports like eventing. oh well he is addicted now so anthony only has himself to blame

i read the headlines "hamilton vows to improve". let's hope so-i think the FIA should check he has a valid superlicence

listen all you stupids who misinterpret my post. i never said anything about my grandmother -its my 90 yo mother who still drives (faster than glock). actually my grandmother could probably also drive faster if she was alive. also i have watched or been to every GP since 1976 so have seen more than you have had hot dinners. i have been to every australian GP since 1956 (even before it was part of world championship). i have also raced many types of cars including a vintage F1 & whatever glock may say there will always be a suspicion.

even though button is the best british driver he is still no match for rubens, so he should be the one replaced in they need to. however fix the car first before you worry about drivers because either of them can exploit its potential, which currently has similar performance to a shopping trolley.

trust me "coopersugar" you will be better off without him. actually we tifosi hope he stays & then mclaren wont win a WCC for the next 10 years to match the past 10 years. gentleman he is not - just ask montoya, coulthard, kimi & alonso

enjoy it while it lasts. this will be the last time

to "peterson" you moron its MIKA hakkinen not kimi. the only similarity is they are both finnish. the difference is only one can drive. both hakkinen's championships were sheer luck like the latest effort. still hakkinen will still win twice as many championships as hamilton.

of course he can but whereas rossi took 2 years before he got it back, kimi can do it after one; that is if filipe doesn't win it in 09. if ferrari get the KERS right at the beginning they are unstoppable

to "eggnham" you have a very short memory if you think alonso is the only driver who hates dennis. how about montoya & kimi for starters? he is a control freak. heikki will be the next one to walk out especially now with everyone crawling to hamilton. the only thing that keeps him there is there are no better drives avialable. if alonso did not have such high morals he would have stayed at mclaren in 08 & wiped the floor with hamilton.

i wonder if one of his ambitions is to get a job at ferrari? if so dont put the bit about your previous team cheating & the $100M fine on your CV or you wont even get a job sweeping the floor there. or maybe you could get the job at ferrari that the last briton who got sacked had, & you could start the cycle all over again.

he's a mclaren lackey so what else would he say?

moss didn't exactly cover himself with glory when he tried unsuccessfully to win the world championship against ferrari, so why even ask his opinion?

luca -your 2 boys will be unbeatable next year with a bit more luck & reliability. also if the FIA are a bit fairer with their decisions it may help as well. for instance hamilton should have been banned for the rest of the season for what he did in canada & elsewhere.

he doesn't need to worry then - there will be no more glory. he will be another one hit wonder like that other briton -damon hill who also won by sheer luck. oh well he could probably get a job in the media to follow on from that other loser - coulthard.

16 WCCs in 58 years is a record average that is incomparable to any other team, & stefano follows the many other greats. in fact the only 2 years during the past 10 when ferrari lost the WCC was when an englishman was their chief strategist. at least he is now safely out of harms way at honda & ferrari can get on with more winning with the italians running the show. F1 should only be for pure racing cars & the mclaren type kit cars should be banned- or at least those that steal the blueprints (again perpetrated by a briton).

my 90 year old mother could drive faster in the wet than glock's last lap. he obviously had a lot of money on hamilton for world champion. if he drove faster than trulli then trulli was in on the scam as well

honda should not worry about new drivers for 09. they should stick with what they have got & spend all their efforts getting a car they can drive competitively. only then will they need drivers to take them to the next level which cant possibly happen next year. brawn cant perform miracles-he only looked good at ferrari because of the other good people he had.

you should have retired years ago when you had some success with mclaren but you never had the ability to do to red bull what schumi did for ferrari. maybe you will find a niche as a commentator. at least you will know what it was like to fail because of your vast experience in that regard

he's british so i wouldn't expect him to say anything else. hamilton will remain a virtual unknown in australia. as usual there is virtually nothing about the championship in the media

congrat to stafano & all his team. winning 16 WCC is an incredible effort that other teams can only dream of. the drivers championship was won by nothing but sheer luck & we can only suspect what glock's motives were. maybe he had money on a hamilton win in the drivers championship

the french writer is spot on "win at whatever price". the win is all down to sheer luck or filipe's bad luck in parts of the season. ferrari will be unbeatable next year because unlike mclaren they have TWO great drivers

well said schumi but it was more luck than fate.

of course he would say that. if he is so stupid that he doesn't know what is going on around him he should not be in F1

typical PF1 biased rubbish. you fail to mention filipe would already be world champion before the last race if he did not have the incident at the singapore pitstop or the mechanical failures while in a class of his own. all these problems were beyond his control. also since filipe is a gentleman he would have been a great ambassador for the sport unlike what he are stuck with now. hamilton remains the most undeserving champion since keke rosberg. apart from the fact that he should have been banned from racing for his dirty tactics & mclaren should have not been allowed in this years championship after the cheating last year.

typical PF1 biased rubbish. you fail to mention filipe would already be world champion before the last race if he did not have the incident at the singapore pitstop or the mechanical failures while in a class of his own. all these problems were beyond his control. also since filipe is a gentleman he would have been a great ambassador for the sport unlike what he are stuck with now. hamilton remains the most undeserving champion since keke rosberg. apart from the fact that he should have been banned from racing for his dirty tactics & mclaren should have not been allowed in this years championship after the cheating last year.

rob & the other back room boys have made life very difficult for filipe with all their mistakes this year. filipe should have it wrapped up by now.

i'm sure rubens must be kicking himself for leaving ferrari & joining hopeless honda. he claims he left of his own accord but unless he is stupid he was pushed. if filipe becomes champion he will realise it could have been him.

filipe is a likeable character unlike hamilton who alienates people -that is why these things happen to him. if ever he becomes champion he will be the most disliked & least deserving in F1 hitory

its a sideshow to main game & not newsworthy. nothing more than a PR stunt

oh sure heikki we believe you. we know you like being treated like a second rate driver. trouble is there is no better options for you at the moment with both ferrari slots taken

trulli is one of the hardest drivers to get past so now filipe has 2 guys running shotgun for him. hopefully since kimi is on the better side he will beat trulli to the first corner but trulli should be able to control hamilton. also trulli does not like hamilton so that could be real handy as well. hamilton will surely tempt fate by trying to get invloved at the start which hopefully will finish him

to "steve1471" you're an idiot to compare him with schumi- at least michael could still drive & win championships when he got older. coulthard hasn't won a race in so many years i have forgotten. & i'm scotish by decent, not british, but choose to live in australia

please dont insult me by calling me britsh. to others who have slammed my bias-you just cant take the umpires decision. also note the stewards are different at each race so how could it be they all find hamiltons driving unacceptable? i suspect mclaren has a hotline to the FIA to have penalties reduced because if fair he would have been banned many races back. besides mclaren should not be contesting this years championship.

why bother coultard? or do you want to prove you can still lose in more than F1?

ther only reason he can leave before he is pushed is because he announced his retirement early. an old ploy but doesn't change the fact he should have been pushed out years ago

ominous. at least hamilton has found his finishing position for the GP & if race finishes in the order filipe is world champion

i dint think "trust" is the right word. hope would be more fitting. i think he knows how many enemies he has by now & he will need to watch out from all angles.

if this is an example of his sickening bias i cetainly wont be watching with the sound on if he becomes a commentator

why would hamilton be the headline when filipe & alonso were the only performers? this is just a hamilton propoganda rag

what an anti climax. where else can he go? it is barely newsworrthy.

if he supports the charity it would better to donate the money it costs to repaint the car. he should have retired a few years ago when he could still drive.

what else would you expect him to say & if he had said massa deserved it then PF1 would not have published. the british just cant be fair minded. i suppose they have so few sporting champions they have to cling to something. objectively filipe is far more deserving because if he had more reliability & better pitstop in singapore he would already be champion. so on pure driver ability he is streets ahead. by contrast hamilton has been incredibly lucky. besides if the FIA had been fair he would already be banned from racing.

i've got an idea -why doesn't he just stay away from brazil then he cant destroy other drivers race. after what he has done this year & what mclaren did last year he should not even be in the race

ferrari have solved their wet weather problems but typical of PF1 to refer to old history & claim that gives hamilton an advantage. actually it becomes a lottery if it rains because safety car is more likely.

no rcparsons i have got a better idea. why dont the FIA be totally fair & ban mclaren for the cheating they did in 2007? they should not even be contesting this years championship. the only worthy winner this year is filipe & ferrari has contructors title all but sown up.

i'm sure PF1 can drag up some has beens that support their view but many more would want filipe to win. of course scheckter remains the most undeserving champion ever (villeneuve should have won) so obviously he wants hamilton to win this year so he is no longer the most undeserving champion of all time

well said richardW-couldn't put it better myself. hoever its obvious ferrari will only allow kimi to win if hamilton is out & filipe is able to come 2nd. difficult to orchestrate

ferrari will win no matter what the weather has in store

how would klein know what ferrari are doing with KERS? do you really believe the oldest & most successful team in F1 history would not have it well advanced by now? typical of PF1 to single out ferrari to stick the boots in-why not mention the level of progress at the other non BMW teams?

after they cheated last year the FIA should have banned them for this year as well because of the technology they stole from ferrari. there is no way of determining the extent to which they gained a technical advantage from ferrari's intellectual property. how can anybody still have any respect for him after he tried to worm out of what his team did?

they need more than a new rear wing. they need to upgrade car to centurian tank specs to stop all the hamilton haters having a go at him on the track

dont worry all this psycho babble is similar to last year (if not worse) & look what happened then. expect the same result this time. i dont know why the press carry on so much-he showed what he thought of britain by going to live in switzerland-dont blame him for that.

we all know this so why publish the bleeding obvious? maybe he could take up singing like hamilton. maybe even form a duet when hamilton is banned from F1 for dirty tactics

jack of all trades master of none if his driving ability is any guide. still it wont stop him claiming to be the best singer ever. if he is only comparing his ability using that screeching Scherzinger as a benchmark, he is already great. when the FIA finally wake up & ban him from F1 he may need to sing for his supper

at least PF1 will be happy if ferrari quit. problem is without them F1 will die.

just proves how biased this site is. schumi basically said someone will break his record. why didn't headline read "massa could break my record"? we know the answer -the most biased website in F1

to "robbie08" no i am not in the pay of ferrari. quite the opposite since i have owned most of their models since 1978 they have cost me a lot of money. you just cant take the stewards decisions because it does not support your britsh loser most of the time.

he is just a side show for F1 & not worthy of a news item

what a stupid suggestion. why would filipe risk doing that & potentially get no points when there are quite a few others willing to do it? hamilton has a lot of enemies

dennis again verifies what a totally disgusting person he is. no wonder drivers like kimi, alonso & montoya want to get out at the first opportunity. heikki will be the next. they haven't won a championship for 10 years & they will still be waiting after brazil

your drivers will be ok but you cant expect much if you stick with those engines. you must get the ferrari engine for 09

another biased commentator. why not bring balance to the BBC & engage an italian?

dennis again verifies what a totally disgusting person he is. no wonder drivers like kimi, alonso & montoya want to get out at the first opportunity. heikki will be the next. they haven't won a championship for 10 years & they will still be waiting after brazil

he clearly does not understand the situation-he says track is bumpy but filipe has just stated it is now NOT bumpy. hope they have car set up for bumps. he is dreaming if he thinks mclaren will be more suited to track than last year, & rem they still have the same driver. he concedes they under stress while filipe says he is under no pressure. i know where my money is going.

yes haug -both championships are a formailty but you have backed the wrong horse

nelson there are many ways you can help filipe & i hope you are thinking of them -good luck

to marc -yeah stupid everybody realizes that if they can do arithmetic, but he now has to forget that & win the next race & hope hamilton is paid back for the misery he has created this year

the kimi/sutil accident in monaco was completely different to the kimi/hamilton accident (unavoidable racing accident)in monaco & the FIA punished accordingly -however hamilton should have been banned for the rest of the season. bad luck sutil lost his points because it did not allow a ferrari engined car to get points-but shit happens. this is in spite of FIA being very soft on mclaren last year when they allowed their drivers to keep their points yet the team had cheated & they were driving an illegal car

kimi is good at coming from behind on the last race, so kubica will not come third

he's so old & past it, why does anybody ask his opinion or care what he says? however he was right in the first place

right again luca. he should lobby hard for this stupid rule to be revoked. however the FIA are so harsh on ferrari he will have an uphill battle to succeed. the best example of bias again ferrari was last year when mclaren cheated yet the driver kept their points. since the car got an unfair advantage then clearly the drivers did as well.

ferrari always make the right decisions. that is why they win more championships than other teams can even dream of.

he needs to pray for more than that. he needs to hope the other drivers dont treat him like he has treated them. eg kimi in canada & belgium

filipe is the class act this year & will thoughourly deserve the championsip which he has in the bag already. all he needs to do is turn up in brazil & it's his for the taking.

to "punter' you are a waste of breath. In my country F1 is in side column (at best) no matter who wins. in recent times only superstars like kimi & schumi are known drivers-never hamilton

to "punter' you total moron saying "hamilton is only reason F1 is getting coverage in australia". i have watched every race since 1976 (except the ones i have been to) & that was before hamilton was even born. he is a complete unknown with average australian (most have no interest in F1. you say "nobody know who the ferrari drivers are". for your info they have won more world championships than any other driver including the current one & the next one.

well that counts hamilton out he has already proved it this year & last year. so dont bother to turn up. at least filipe will he home near where he grew up

brundle is ok but there seems to be a lot of other dead wood. get murray back as well

we tifosi are more than happy with these comments & kimi will do all that is necessary to bring hamilton unstuck. maybe he should use some of hamilton's own tactics-hope kimi has learnt a few.

webber is one of the few australians that has even heard of hamilton, but the ones that know his tactics & antics are not impressed. we admire laid back & humble people like both ferrari drivers. take jones & brabbham for example-they are true worthy champions unlike hamilton if his tactics ever allowed him to get to that position. & sour grapes is not part of our makeup.

see what a lovely selfless boy kimi is. it's nice to see such a team spirit. they deserve all the success they get & the constuctors title is in the bag already

to heiiki_fan-what kimi did in canada was perfectly legal-read the rules stupid

schumi is either having a seniors moment or PF1 have distorted what he said to run their agenda

i think it would be fair if kimi repaid hamilton in exactly the same way as what hamilton did to kimi in canada & all you whinging poms would have nothing to complain about

hill is the most undeserving champion in F1 history so has no right to comment on anything. however if hamilton wins title then hill will no longer be the the MOST undeserving.

it is no different to when heikki let hamilton thru earlier in season. why not make a fuss then?

of course he will be calm-he's got typical brazillian temprament. i note hamilton is not-he should be very concerned

if the mclaren CEO is concerned about reliability then all the moronic hamilton fans should be even more concerned. after all heikki has had 2 consecutive failures so about time for hamilton

to yelerichard-no my wife has never watched current GPs so has never heard of or seen hamilton. he is virtually unknown in australia like all other GPs drivers. in fact there is so little interest in GPs australia does not deserve to have a GP. if his main competitors had no reliability problems this year filipe would already be champion, & about time he had reliability problems like heikki has in past 2 GPs-so hamilton is one under pressure not filipe.

family cant help if mclaren breaks down- statistically that should happen because it has happened a couple of times to all his major competitors this season. without that filipe would already be champion,

the fact he even talks about this means he is worried. filipe should feel confident hamilton will stuff it up & all he then needs is to come second. ferrari should also feel confident of winning constructors championship

the title should already belong to filipe if it was not for extreme bad luck at various points through the year. if hamilton wins he will be the least deserving winner in many years & should already have been barred from racing because of his tactics

of course he is right but hamilton may still win because he can use those tactics to drive his competitors off the track & still not lose points to them if they all get zero.

the difference is filipe is a gentleman. why would hamilton want to "protect his reputaion" as you say? it is already that of a cheat in a team that was proved to be cheats so why are they still in F1. only he has been penalised already 6 times this year. how long to we put up with these tactics?

wayneharding-read the comments of the drivers & you will see they also suspect different fuel loads. even more obvious in practice 2. also, learn to spell stupid

only problem with this outfit is the car. it must be a very bad chassis because clearly the engine is great & drivers ok yet consistently over 2 seconds off the pace

ferrari have not unleashed their full potential yet

i hope the 2 mclaren drivers are never released

i hope the 2 mclaren drivers are never released

hamilton running on fumes again & i expect the renaults copied. wait for the race. anyone with half a brain would know ferrari is quicker than the cars that finished above them so obviously on different fuel loads

why would this be news. where else could he go?

bring it on. ferrari would already be champions & kimi would still be a chance if that was in

to galengrassi-i stick by my comments & yes i have driven F1 & am 61 yo (not 5 as suggested). i didn't win a race but i bet i achieved more than you ever have. what would you know to make such uninformed comments? in my day we would not accept the hamilton tactics

i would say hamilton was running on fumes for his quick time- trying to destabilise ferrari. well it wont work-they were just preparing for the race

its about time the F1 drivers spoke up & they should try everything to get him banned from F1 for the rest of the season. for what he has done already i would slap a life ban on him for all forms of motor racing. when someone is killed by his despicable actions then it will be too late. it shows no talent what he did at the first corner at fuji-his only ambition was to brake so late it was impossible to take the corner on the track & he knew others would be forced off & he knew they would be his main rivals. it wouldn't even be acceptable in go karts

i fear hamilton has plans to take out filipe & alonso to get competition out of the way. he realises that even if he gets a drive thru as long as he doesn't lose points to filipe he will become champion because kubica will not catchup. these are despicable tactics if this is what's planned

i would suggest sending hamilton away for therapy together with the person that wrote this. can PF1 ever write anything that is unbiased?

he forgets we are coming to ferrari circuits, so give up & better luck next year loser

there is no plot to lose stupid. this is rubbish hyped up by PF1 that there is some kind of pro ferrari conspiracy. of course you can find somebody seeking publicity to agree with that & promote the myth. in fact if the the FIA had been fair last year they would have disqualified the 2 drivers in the car that cheated by stealing ferrari documents. how can the car be disqualified & not the drivers of same car? if they had been fair they would have already disqualified hamilton for the rest of the season (if not for life) for all his dirty tactics. they also went very light on him when he crashed into back of kimi in montreal.

i'm sure they're sandbagging about KERS to give you pro british fools some hope. of course it will be well advanced & hopefully will be reliable within 5 months

what would he know about F1? did you ever see him drive? i see better performances at the supermarket carpark

he has faith in the system (unlike PF1) so of course he would agree with the decision-why would he need to know what the spoilt brat had done?

the difference last year was kimi had a fast car. the BMW is only 3rd or 4th fastest this year

this is heresay. why dont you try to get the true facts first by interviewing whiting?

this is heresay. why dont you try to get the true facts first by interviewing whiting?

this is heresay. why dont you try to get the true facts first by interviewing whiting?

they're dreaming if they think fernando would join this hopeless outfit. he has already said he knows where he is going next year but will not announce it til after brazil. this being the case, dont you think he would have let honda know by now if he was going there? are they stupid or something? they would be better spending time & money getting the car to go faster & only then the good drivers will come to them. better stick with a "has been" & a "never was" til then

to "lemarres", i have attended more GPs than you have had hot dinners for the past 30 years & i assure you DC is past it. let a hungry young driver have a go. at least "thegrandmaster" & "srikar" know what's right

i hope fernando puts his words into action. there are many subtle things he can do to help ferrari & one day he may be repaid by joining them. hamilton must be stopped one way or another -he has brought the sport into disrepute

you're right nick except you should have gone further & say hamilton should be banned for the rest of the season (at least) for these tactics. so to all you pro hamilton creeps-just listen to the the many F1 drivers (trulli, heidfield, alonso, kubica) who effectively are calling hamilton a cheat. i am sure the ferrari boys think the same but need to be diplomatic.

why bother. he should retire now before he gets hurt. why plod around near the back of the field as the slowest of the red bull runners

dennis should just shutup & thank his lucky stars he still has hamilton as a driver. if the FIA had been fair they would have banned him for the rest of the year for his disgraceful ramming tactics in this race & others. think also of canada

yes it sure is amazing. he is the luckiest driver in F1 but it will surely run out. reality is ferrari are still .4 sec faster so he did not deserve to win either race

how can you publish this rubbish? hamilton is the most agressive driver in F1 & finally got a bit of his own medicine so he whinges. as if filipe would hit somebody deliberately & almost certainly compromise his own race.

of course kimi is not lying. that vile hamilton has done it again like he did in canada. he must be stopped by the FIA. he should be banned for the rest of this season at least. furthermore if the FIA had been fair last year they would have banned the 2 drivers who got points for driving a mclaren that had cheated. it was totally illogical to give mclaren zero points yet let the drivers keep theirs. at least it proves without a doubt that FIA favors mclaren -not ferrari but PF1 conveniently ignores this fact.

filipe is right & both drivers got what they deserved, however massa should not have been penalised-he did nothing wrong. problem is british based journalists just cannot be impartial. in the past the FIA have been too pro british teams but at least recently are trying to be fair, but you lot have got so used to favoritism you think fairness is the same as pro ferrari. get a life

this is a disgraceful summary & bear little resemblance to reality. PF1 should not be allowed to produce this propoganda rubbish any longer. some fools may start to believe it. fact is hamilton should have been banned for the rest of the season for the 1st corner incident

kimi would have been the quickest & in fact won the race if his car had not been damaged by the mclarens on the 1st corner

filipe had the corner & bourdais should show a bit of respect to championship contender especially since he is using a ferrari engine. at least the stewards agree & bourdais got what he deserved

kimi & filipe would have comfortably got 1st 2 places if hamilton had not rammed through hitting kimi on the 1st corner. it is very dirty tactics & he should have received a much greater penalty. ferraris were again the fastest even though kimi had sustained damage from being hit by both mclarens. so imagine how quick he would have been in a fair race. hamilton should be banned from F1 for remaider of season but FIA are afraid to act. again alonso was very lucky & it is nonsence to think he is genuinely deserving of victory.

the PF1 bias makes me sick. clearly the stewards are correct & in fact hamilton should have got a much greater penalty for the 1st corner incident. clearly his only intention was to barge thru after his bad start & he intended to take out both ferraris because he could not allow them to be in front. i fear he will do this again in the next 2 races because he realises if he crashes in the process of taking out the 2 ferraris he will become champion.

how can fry say "honda has done rather better..than most of the others"? they are a basket case. what is he on? also, surely if a few teams drops out then honda wont be beaten by so many.

what a pointless article. would ferrari ever target less than maximum points

more like "never was" than "has been". he just stepped into top car when was senna killed & never deserved such a ride, otherwise his GP win score would be zero.

it would be better to practice more with current system than reverting to an old system that is slower if both used at their optimum.

vettel should now be allowed to stay at toro rosso because at least they have the ferrari engine. a move to red bull is a backward step. he should have been allowed to swap into one of the 3 top teams but clearly too late now

this article again shows the anti ferrari bias

hamilton completely stuffed up 2 out of the next 3 races last year so lets hope he goes one better this time & stuffs up all 3

ferrari claim to have solved their wet weather problems but it didn't rain in singapore, so they haven't shown that strength yet

yes it was a circus & guess who was the dwarf? i think i saw an elephant at mclaren mercedes as well.

how statistics can lie. they may be the facts but haug forgets that ferrari have been consistently faster but incredibly unlucky. luck has a tendency to average out so mclaren should be in a for a very bad time because we already know they are slower than ferrari.

so what-massa could also win the world championship without winning another race-it's just a bit harder. remember keke rosberg won world championship by only winning 1 race.

easier said than done especially because kimi must be depressed at the moment. also if he gets in front after such a long time he may "forget" to drop back behind massa. he may end up helping ferrari for the constructors championship while hindering massa's quest for the drivers crown

he needs to get his mind sorted out. he has shown what he can do with 10 fastest laps this year but seems he cant give total concentration for a whole GP, plus he has been unlucky. once his mind is sorted he will be unstoppable next year.

of course he can & will. all we need is a mclaren stumble in fuji with filipe winning & suddenly hamilton is playing catchup, & kimi is a better backstop than kovi.

hey petefrombristol --------who looks too young? dont worry i doubt williams can do 180mph!!!!!!!!!

i'm pleased he believes they have found sweet spot because even then the whole package is much slower than ferrari. the only reason hamilton or mclaren scored so many points is incredible luck (combined with unprecedented bad luck for ferrari) which is likely to run out in next 3 races. neither hamilton or mclaren deserve to be champions

ok dont name & shame the mechanic but please gho back to the lollipop system for the next races

luca is right. he has more power than he realises & should threaten to walk out on F1 unless it is made fair. F1 without ferrari is nothing so they are forced to listen. rules must be changed so cars are fueled to the end so cars are not forced to pit before pits are opened under safety car. surely slightly slower F1 cars is preferrable to current lottery.

F1 is simply a lottery with current safety car rules so these are just lottery results. there needs to be a time allowance added on to each driver correlating to gaps as they crossed start/finish line on lap prior to safety car. also cars need to be fueled to end of race so pit stops are only for tyres etc. this would have added benefit of an incentive to be more fuel efficient, & while they would be slower, spectators would barely notice. these rule changes would instantly make F1 fair.

hopefully brundle will go to BBC (this goes to australia), but please can we get murray back?

he only liked it because his driver did well (& was very lucky). it would have looked much better in daylight. most of it was driving between walls which could have been anywhere. lets hope monaco never has a night race.

why make things worse for the ferrari guy who made the mistake? he must be feeling suicidal now. if ferrari lose the championships it will not be this incident to blame, but the numerous mechanical failures & driver errors this season. kimi should feel very embarrassed to have so many fastest laps yet so little to show for it. they are clearly the fastest at the moment so lets hope they can perform faultlessly for the last 3 races & show their true form.

next he'll want us to believe in the tooth fairy

kimi had 2 fastest sectors & pulled in during 1st session & massa did the same in the 2nd session, so mclaren supporters dont get too smug-gods own red team have not shown true colors yet

from experience singapore rain usually occured no later than very early evening so i would expect if this happens they will delay the start slightly or start under safety car. unless drivers get experience with rain on saturday it would be crazy to race in the rain at night-too much of a lottery.

of course he deserves to win even if by a point. he has been very unlucky this year with ferrari technical problems otherwise he would be well in the lead irrespective of what happened in belgium. go filipe!!!

the best thing berger can do is plead with the boss to allow vettel to stay put

i just hope if he goes well he then backs off enough to allow filipe in front. hopefully by then hamilton has been eliminated-his luck in the wet will surely run out

I_say chaps-get your facts staight stupid -kimi came from 14th to 9th in last GP. also to further demonstrate your stupidity, none of the drivers you refer to started in a top rated car so if hamilton didn't win that sort of ratio you would be asking questions

this statement by domenicali is at odds with kimi's comment this week that only when there is no mathematical chance will he be at the service of the team. i wonder you has more power?- i suspect the guy in the cockpit

why does every article need hamilton's opinion on this website? please give us a hamilton free article occasionally because the guy's a loser

button has a chance to score because weather is unpredictable so there could be a lot of carnage & a bit of a lottery. if it is dry i doubt either honda can score. better to prepare for next year

justice at last & hopefully this latest mclaren whinge will die. please note every current F1 driver that was interviewed about the incident said hamilton got an advantage so the end result only confirms the truth. of course the penalty of 25 seconds is more than the advantage he got, but if drivers were only penalised by the amount they gained an advantage by, it would be chaotic because there would be no incentive to do the right thing.

what a stupid whitmarsh comment. firstly he has a very short memory-both the last 2 GPs were wet & neither of his drivers won either race, yet ferrari engined cars won both. secondly the next 4 races will almost certainly be warm to hot, so even if it is raining conditions will suit ferrari.

how can dennis be compared to luca. one runs a kit car company, the other makes cars

i have reliable sources in scotland that alan mc nish has signed to drive for ferrari next year so where did these kubica rumours come from?

how come kimi was quicker that hamilton in the wet qualifying yet hamilton said kimi hasn't got the balls to drive fast in the wet?

PF1 truly disgust me -they are so biased in favor of that brat hamiltion. many wrote comments that stewards are amateurs & dont know what it is like to drive under those circumstances. well now many F1 drivers agree hamilton gained an advantage therefore is a cheat. And more than the F1 drivers you mention- fisi also effectively said same thing as others so there are at least 7 f1 drivers including world champions alonso & kimi who say hamilton gained an advantage so what better drivers do you need to support this notion. it is just that PF1 have a distorted view of reality & are totally unbalanced