Its not Massa thats the let down its the car, or should i say most of the teams were caught short by BrawnGP and RBR.

Chylout, ok Malaysia was average this year, but so it was for every one except for Button and Glock kinda. But in qualifying for Monza he went through to Q3 when no one else did in the dying minutes of Q2 and made a good race the next day. In Brazil he kept it together in the wet when he was under massive pressure. In China this year he was indeed very good. With a car on a one stopper he drove from 13th to 3rd, including some great passes. So he is good in the wet except the one-off Silverstone weekend. But his haters doesn't realize it. Should we call Hamilton a bad wet weather driver because he spun in China this year as many times as Massa in Silverstone last year? No, we should not, and therefore we should not call Massa a bad wet weather driver.

OK, so Massa says Ferrari are confident, while at the same time, Raikkonen says they're not expecting much. Hmm, who to listen to...

scefan. Lets see - Monza, Malaysia, China.... ok so Felipe-baby didn't spin 5 times in those races like he did at Silverstone, but I wouldn't call those performances "good or very good" either. He's a quick guy who is average at best in the wet. But since most races are bone dry I don't think its a massive deal either way.

As negative as you guys' comments are towards Massa,at least he speaks as someone who's commited to the team,the Kimster couldn't care less

I can't help it , I still feel bad about this guy. He still affected for what happen last year, he doesn't look the same guy, he doesn't even look into the camera when he talks anymore ( like with shame ), besides he doesn't even know what to say, or to keep a story straight. Two weeks ago the headline was that he said they had no idea of what to expect on this track. I don't know, maybe they did some running in the dark night of the forest of this track to prove he was wrong.

THussey, Massa says the car will be BETTER here than in Silverstone, which is probably right. He doesn't say they will challenge the Red Bulls or Brawn either. Mission15, last time Massa did a bad race in the wet was at Silverstone last year. From then on he has been only good and very good in the wet. So quit living in the past.

And it's going to be raining as well Mr Spinny!! I can here the ipod already...........You spin me right round baby, right round.................

To be fair though THussey, it's not really the same car as the one that ran in Melbourne given how much development has gone on That said, you're right in the fact it will most likely be another Brawn/Red Bull affair.

..but if it rains, will it suit Massa? "Felipe baby, we've got a new visor for you, it's new, you'll be able to see.."

Nurburgring is like Melbourne really. Straights, medium-speed corners. The car didn't suit Melbourne so why would it suit Nurburgring? In the event that the car does suit the track, i think it'd be a safe bet assuming it'll suit Red Bull and BrawnGP better.