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1c3mn
Posted 12/09/2008 @ 04:52 View all 1c3mn's posts

why do PF1ers keep saying we need a 'wet' race for it to be exciting? is it because mclaren is good in the wet? would hamilton have caught up with raikkonen had it not rained? andrew davies, just like everyone else, has his own opinion and it seems pretty obvious to me as pro-hamilton...if not most of the time, all the time.

LairdPleng
Posted 11/09/2008 @ 19:08 View all LairdPleng's posts

Sydjed your history is so distorted it's fantasy! Alow me to re-educate: "Who appealed last years results? Lewis" WRONG! McLaren appealed and Lewis said he did not wish to win the championship in that way. "Who sarcastically occupied the pole position he didn't earn last year after crying foul to his team mates antics and yet he started it?" WRONG! The Stewards investigated that result independently. "Whon got lifted by a crane from the gravel and put back on the race track and continued racing? Lewis" GRANTED, that did seem a little odd "Who lied that he knew nothing about the stolen Ferrari data? Lewis" WRONG! It has not been proven that Lewis knew anything about it. Only Alonso and Pedro were ever implied in any technical documents you would care to read about the case. "Who punted his rival in the pits when the most obvious person he was going to hit was right ahead of him?Lewis" Your point? Lewis hardly gained an advantage from it, seeing as he didn't sore any points that race (and indeed was penalized for it the following race) "Who cut a chicane and has lied at every turn and still keeps on lying? Lewis" Again your point is? We all know Lewis cut the chicane but the rest of the sentence is pure garbage without meaning. Lewis has been penalized the most of any driver this year. Most penalties were fair. 1 was overly harsh, but this latest one was totally unfair. Please stop spreading hate.

jnster27
Posted 11/09/2008 @ 17:35 View all jnster27's posts

Well, GavH (and Andrew), as it turns out not even Whiting can agree with the opening few paragraphs of this article ... I agree that having full-time prof stewards is the answer, but at the same time, Hamilton just walked into this one. The race footage I saw (but have yet to see it on YouTube unfortunately) showed the cars from a side angle, after the Bus Stop, and it really seemed that LH waited till the very last moment before surrendering the position. He didn't do the correct thing and turn immediately towards the actual circuit; instead he just made a beeline for La Source from his position off the circuit, got midway/two-thirds down the straight once on the track, slowed by 6 kmh (wow!), and then glued himself to Kimi's gearbox. Hardly showing due respect for the rules, is it? Aside from that, what was he doing taking risks like that? Hamilton's got a championship at stake: he already had a healthy points lead before the race and was about to extend that, and even with a win at Spa, KR would still have been very much the outsider in championship terms. OK, the diehard racers (like Kimi & Alonso) make the worthy champs, so winning every pole/FL/race is the goal, but Hamilton's psyche could be his own undoing. Nothing to do with stewards, Ferrari, FIA favouritism or red lights that shouldn't be there in Canadian pitlanes. Kimi's a tough guy on the track, as McLaren well know, and he was on a mission. Couldn't McL see it would be good for Hamilton (bad for Ferrari, having to support both drivers) to have KR back in the frame - didn't his engineer tell him: go for it, but think 'championship'? Plus, it was only ever going to get wetter. Before the race, Ham was talking the 'long game' talk, no rash decisions, no unnecessary risks. It was brash indecision that tripped him up last year at China, and he's still not capable of thinking long game, it seems.

geoff
Posted 11/09/2008 @ 17:21 View all geoff's posts

Planet F-yawnnn... Planet F-off... For those who are impartial - this Lewis stuff is all becoming a little tedious. You might want to rename the site to suit.

Ferrari27
Posted 11/09/2008 @ 16:41 View all Ferrari27's posts

You never know, it might rain at Monza. It did in 1975.

DerekS
Posted 11/09/2008 @ 14:37 View all DerekS's posts

Yeah right, maybe the McLaren drivers are getting penalized the most due to the fact that they have more infringements of the rules than other teams. I agree with sydjed. Enough of the Ferrari conspiracy theories, this has become a lame horse(pun intended)

GavH
Posted 11/09/2008 @ 09:14 View all GavH's posts

Surely whatever side people are on for the whole "Lewis penalty" debate we can all agree with the opening few paragraphs of this article. F1, as one of the largest sports in the world, without doubt needs full-time, professional, experienced stewards. With the budgets and logistics involved, it surely can't be too difficult to add an extra three people from the FIA onto the plane to the race.

sydjed
Posted 11/09/2008 @ 08:40 View all sydjed's posts

Fluffy you actually are missing the point here. Lewis is the biggest opportunistic cheat in F1. Who appealed last years results? Lewis, Who sarcastically occupied the pole position he didn't earn last year after crying foul to his team mates antics and yet he started it? Lewis, Whon got lifted by a crane from the gravel and put back on the race track and continued racing? Lewis. Who lied that he knew nothing about the stolen Ferrari data? Lewis. Who gained from that data? Lewis. Who punted his rival in the pits when the most obvious person he was going to hit was right ahead of him?Lewis. Who cut a chicane and has lied at every turn and still keeps on lying? Lewis. So who's the greatest cheat here? LEWIS. lewis it is. Case closed.

Fluffy
Posted 10/09/2008 @ 23:08 View all Fluffy's posts

Planet-F1, will you do a report on what Pat Symonds said about the Spa travesty? Not sure if you've picked it up yet, but it's on the Autosport website. I think it is important and trounces Massa's opinion about Lewis' driving showing him Massa up to be an opportunistic cheat.